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CryoNet - Thu 13 Aug 2009

    #31866: #31864: Krugman Explains Why Progress Is Slowing Down [John de Rivaz]
    #31868: Re: CryoNet #31862 - #31865 [Shannon]
    #31869: Oregon Cryonics & Helping combat age related degeneration [Shannon]

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Message #31866
From: "John de Rivaz" <[email protected]>
Subject: #31864: Krugman Explains Why Progress Is Slowing Down
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 10:23:10 +0100

It is worthwhile clicking on the link
http://io9.com/5335000/krugman-explains-why-progress-is-slowing-down
and reading the comments thereafter. There is a lot of debate as to whether it is really true that progress has slowed. But if it has, here are a couple of possible reasons:

One thing no one has mentioned is that in the past when progress could have been faster, there wasn't the "brain drain" of active minds into pure money making systems such as finance, law and compliance. (That is to say systems that gather money but don't create real wealth in return, as do research and development, manufacture and construction. For example, people who get jobs counting light bulbs at $150/house are not creating proportionate wealth.)

Also. in electronics for example, it was possible to make something new from relatively few easily manipulated components. These days, new appliances require a lot of planning and a "fabrication plant" to make the necessary ICs, the components of which are too small for humans to see and manipulate. Therefore most new products are made by committees,

-- 
Sincerely, John de Rivaz:  http://John.deRivaz.com for websites including
Cryonics Europe, Longevity Report, The Venturists, Porthtowan, Alec Harley
Reeves - inventor, Arthur Bowker - potter, de Rivaz genealogy,  Nomad .. and
more

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Message #31868
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Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 20:06:45 -0700 (PDT)
From: Shannon <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: CryoNet #31862 - #31865

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 I'm glad you had a great visit Robert! I liked their book :-) finally got a chance to read Youniverse and loved it too :-). 

I'm hoping Oregon area cryonicists will be able to meet up with my family this Sunday.

Where we'll be Sunday at 2:00pm:

Deschutes Brewpub
210 NW 11th Avenue
Portland, OR 97209

All the best,

Shannon Vyff 
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Message #31869
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 00:03:58 -0700 (PDT)
From: Shannon <[email protected]>
Subject: Oregon Cryonics & Helping combat age related degeneration

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There are two Oregon area Cryonicist meet-ups!:

Eugene area cryonics meet-up:

This Saturday August 15th 5:00pm

Cozmic Pizza (coffee, salads, wine beer and any kind of pizza you'd like from gluten free to regular or vegan)

www.cozmicpizza.com

199 W 8th Ave
Eugene, OR 97401
(541) 338-9333

Portland area cryonics meet-up:

This Sunday August 16th 2:00pm
Deschutes Brewpub
210 NW 11th Avenue
Portland, OR 97209

Also if you have not reviewed ImmInst's latest effort to help fund research into ending age related degeneration please check out our page with further information. It is great opportunity to support basic anti-aging research :-) http://www.imminst.org/archive/articles/laser-research-grant

All the best,
Shannon Vyff 
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