CryoNet #32057 - #32063

CryoNet - Tue 13 Oct 2009

    #32057: Re: Independent Body to represent Cryonics [John de Rivaz]
    #32058: Re: Independent Body to represent Cryonics [robomoon]
    #32059: Re: CryoNet #32052 and Limited Skills [David Stodolsky]
    #32060: interesting perspective from a PR professional [Mark Plus]
    #32061: The Johnson fiasco [Freeposity]

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Message #32057
From: "John de Rivaz" <[email protected]>
References: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Independent Body to represent Cryonics
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 12:53:31 +0100

No one ever got rich over cryonics. This has to be said over and over again
as people appear trying to sell services to cryonicists thinking it is an
easy and fun way to be a business owner. Just because cryonics costs a lot
of money doesn't mean that the money is going into someone's pocket.

-- 
Sincerely, John de Rivaz:  http://John.deRivaz.com for websites including
Cryonics Europe, Longevity Report, The Venturists, Porthtowan, Alec Harley
Reeves - inventor, Arthur Bowker - potter, de Rivaz genealogy,  Nomad .. and
more

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Message #32058
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 15:13:02 +0200 (CEST)
From: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Independent Body to represent Cryonics
References: <[email protected]>

The Cryonics Society's website http://www.cryonicssociety.org looks well due to its professional design and quality of content. CS even looks too good in one way, just because at http://www.cryonicssociety.org/support.html it already demands some payment options as if it offers various services for different prices. No wonder that CS does not meet their financial goals yet, since they are not so long in business to show high profile in terms of financial funding.

Today I made the proactive effort to create a group http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=165445234024 for Cryonics Society at Facebook. Group members are invited for brainstorming with suggestions which changes they would like to happen at CS. The initial idea goes like this: 

It could be better for visitors of the CS page if there would be a lower amount of payment options for financial support to meet generosity with simple clarity. Generous donors should not be disappointed when they learn more about the most serious humanitarian efforts they want to pay for with one out of five levels of support. There is not much clarity that five levels of support are only five different sums of money for one kind of charity and its services.

> 
> Message #32053
> From: "Nick Pavlica" <[email protected]>
> Subject: Independent Body to represent Cryonics
> Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 10:57:39 -0400
> 
> In response to David Stodolsky's post today, (Sunday): 
> ...

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Message #32059
From: David Stodolsky <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: CryoNet #32052 and Limited Skills
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 15:24:19 +0200
References: <[email protected]>

On 12 Oct 2009, at 11:00 AM, CryoNet wrote:

> The website for a cryonics self-regulation and accreditation  
> organization started by David Stodolsky may behttp://cryin.secureid.org/ 
>  (cryonics.info).

The site was for the "Suspension Information Inst."

http://suspension.secureid.org/


Organizing for the new site/Inst. was primarily through email, but  
there was a loss of interest over time. The domain name was finally  
dropped, but the site remains available as a subsite on the  
secureid.org server, which is now being shutdown.


dss


David Stodolsky
[email protected]  Skype: davidstodolsky

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Message #32060
From: Mark Plus <[email protected]>
Subject: interesting perspective from a PR professional
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 08:20:27 -0700

Cut-and-paste follows:

http://mediashopprblog.com/2009/10/12/book-thrusts-cryonics-into-spotlight/


Book Thrusts Cryonics Into Spotlight
by lisa ~ October 12, 2009


Oct. 8, 2009 - To some flacks, all communications crises are the same. There is an all-purpose response roadmap to follow, standard announcements to write, clients to soothe.But then something like this comes along: The former Chief Operating Officer of a cryonics laboratory alleges abuse of corpses and other misdeeds. Oh boy.

Larry Johnson, who was Director of Clinical Services and later COO of the Alcor Life Extension Foundation for less than a year in 2003, has written a tell-all book about the cryonics company. Titled "Frozen: My Journey into the World of Cryonics, Deception, and Death,” its claims include the jarring disclosure that an employee hit baseball great Ted Williams' disarticulated head twice with a wrench.

The foundation has responded with a rambling statement that was clearly not prepared by a seasoned communications professional with crisis experience. It has also posted supplementary documents such as complaints that were filed in courts in New York and Arizona.

As in any whistleblower situation, it's difficult for the target of damaging allegations to control the flow of information. It's true for Lehman Brothers, the target of Larry McDonald's book "A Colossal Failure of Common Sense,” it's true for the hedge fund industry, the focus of criticism by Bill Feingold in his book, "The Undoing of Cowardice,” and it's true for Alcor. But in this case, the incredibly graphic photos and secret audio recordings on Johnson's Web site may be even more damaging to Alcor than his extensive media tour.

In order to salvage the reputation of its industry as well as its business, Alcor should consider bringing in a professional crisis response team. If handled carefully, this could be a prime opportunity for the company to educate the public - or, in other words, a teachable moment. But if it stays its present course, Alcor will continue to be the butt of jokes.

Not surprisingly, the media are having lots of laughs at the expense of the Williams family. A graphic prepared by Fox Sports is particularly distasteful.

But some media, such as ABC's Nightline, are seriously questioning the entire industry as well as Alcor's ethics. And Johnson himself is being forced to answer some tough questions about the veracity of his claims and his own responsibility at the time.

From a PR standpoint, the author looks nearly as slimy as the company he used to represent. In fact, Johnson's description of himself as an "adrenaline junkie” is at odds with the persona he presents during broadcast interviews. The book's publisher, Vanguard Press, a division of the Perseus Books Group, should have invested in solid media training for its client. And messaging. And a good haircut.

Lisa Tibbitts is the principal of Tibbitts Creative, a public relations and marketing service that emphasizes corporate communications. She has an extensive background in financial services and an MBA in marketing. Follow her on Twitter: http://twitter.com/FinancialPR.
 		 	   		  
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Message #32061
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 16:16:54 -0500
Subject: The Johnson fiasco
From: Freeposity <[email protected]>

In Message #32050
From: "gc" <[email protected]>
writes

"Not that I'm worried about Howard Stern's followers, but it irks me that no
one in the media has pointed out this guy has been a proven extortionist."


I think we should be worried about Stern listeners since they are made
up of lawyers, doctors, entertainers, medical professionals,
government officials as well as the rabble you seem to associate with
Howard Stern. We really don't want faulty information to continue to
float around, especially when it could be so easily countered . And we
certainly don't want high profile celebrities who talk to millions of
people for 4 hours a day to have a negative view of cryonics.

_________________________


Thanks to Melody Maxim. I was not aware that a wooden handled hammer
was being used. That is simply unacceptable.




-- 
Your friendly neighborhood agnostic atheist
and reality based hope monger

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