CryoNet #32284 - #32286

CryoNet - Tue 5 Jan 2010

    #32284: Re: CryoNet #32280 - #32283 [Freeposity]
    #32285: FIRST USE OF NANOSENSORS TO MEASURE CANCER BIOMARKERS IN BLOO... [David Stodolsky]
    #32286: Re: Avatar better than Lord of the Rings [David Stodolsky]

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Message #32284
References: <[email protected]>
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 09:42:58 -0600
Subject: Re: CryoNet #32280 - #32283
From: Freeposity <[email protected]>

From: Mathew Sullivan <[email protected]>


>Most cryonicists are religious and fall into the camp of Atheist or
>Theist. What's
>unfortunate is that some cryonicists who are Atheist are judgmental against
>Theists, but that is also true for some of those who are religious
>throughout various societies.  I'm in the minority position of Agnostic.  I'm
>also a Transhumanist and a die-hard cryonicist, but I don't see any
>disconnect, at least not for me.  Through science and technology, I can
>envision having many bodies and a virtual extension of myself, which are all
>interconnected.


I would like to point out that everyone is judgmental. We can't help
it. Even by being "non judgmental" you are making a judgement about
the worth of all other opinions.

A lot of people like to think they are "taking the middle road" in
being an agnostic, but as an agnostic and an atheist I must point out
that being an agnostic doesn't mean you aren't an atheist or a theist.
It means you believe the question of whether there is a god is
inherently unknowable. It's a position on the availability of
knowledge, not a description of belief(or non belief) of deity.

Every agnostic(every person actually) is either a theist or atheist.
You either have a belief in a god or you don't.

I'm a transhumanist as well and like you I do not see a conflict with
cryonics and uploading, both of which do not violate any physical laws
and sit firmly in the arena of "technical challenge". It seems to me
that as computing technology and scanning technology advances it will
become obvious that it is cheaper and safer to scan a cryopreserved
body and store the data. I have yet to see a valid argument against
uploading.


-- 
Your friendly neighborhood agnostic atheist
and reality based hope monger

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Message #32285
From: David Stodolsky <[email protected]>
Subject: FIRST USE OF NANOSENSORS TO MEASURE CANCER BIOMARKERS IN BLOO...
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 17:19:00 +0100

http://www.genengnews.com/genCasts.aspx

A team led by Yale University researchers has used nanosensors to  
measure cancer biomarkers in whole blood for the first time. Their  
findings, which appeared December 13 in the advanced online  
publication of Nature Nanotechnology, could dramatically simplify the  
way physicians test for biomarkers of cancer and other diseases. The  
team, led by Yale's Dr. Mark Reed used nanowire sensors to detect and  
measure concentrations of two specific biomarkers: one for prostate  
cancer and the other for breast cancer.

During this week's podcast, Dr. Reed provides additional details on  
the research reported in the Nature Nanotechnology paper. He explains  
why the team employed a label-free biomarker detection technology and  
how his group was able to overcome the challenge of whole blood  
detection. Dr. Reed describes the advantages the new method has over  
other biomarker detection techniques and looks at the ways doctors  
might be able to use these novel nanosensor devices in daily medical  
practice.



dss

David Stodolsky
[email protected]  Skype: davidstodolsky

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Message #32286
From: David Stodolsky <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Avatar better than Lord of the Rings
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 17:19:54 +0100
References: <[email protected]>

On 4 Jan 2010, at 11:00 AM, CryoNet wrote:

> Native American culture came through from my
> observation and others who watched the movie.

This group has not succeeded in driving out the invaders. They have  
not even gotten paid in full for use of their resources or had all  
their political prisoners released. So, the fit to the film leaves  
something to be desired. Of course, one can pick out the cultural  
element and ignore the rest, but then the interpretation suffers.



> James Cameron's interpretation appears to be much simpler than mine.

<http://www.hollywoodoutbreak.com/2009/12/15/james-cameron---don't-pigionhole-"avatar”/ 
 >

  The Titanic director sees his movie as a sort of biblical and  
ecological journey with a serious bite thrown in to heighten the  
suspense.


This seems a lot closer to my interpretation: The Film promotes  
religion and ecologism, with violence being justified by the 'good  
cause' (it was softened by being 'self-defense', but still the  
settlement required warfare).


dss


David Stodolsky
[email protected]  Skype: davidstodolsky

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