CryoNet #32903 - #32904
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CryoNet - Tue 5 Oct 2010
#32903: Calling all BC cryonicists and cryo-enthusiasts... [Keegan Macintosh]
#32904: Reason 2 [Ettinger]
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Message #32903
From: Keegan Macintosh <[email protected]>
Subject: Calling all BC cryonicists and cryo-enthusiasts...
Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2010 16:09:58 -0700
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Greetings all,
(with my apologies to those who will receive this notice twice through different mailing groups)
Five of us from the Vancouver/Lower Mainland area have started meeting regularly (every other month at present, perhaps more frequently down the line) and would like to invite anyone who is interested to join us. Our group currently includes members of both CI and Alcor, as well as 'un-signed' individuals.
We are following up on some recent successes in identifying funeral directors who are willing to take on clients that have arranged to be cryopreserved - despite previous reluctance premised on an imperfect understanding of the prohibition against marketing and sale of cryonics arrangements in BC. Other goals include developing a standby/stabilization kit and protocol, as well as developing a relationship with local hospitals, emergency services, and the BC Coroners Service to make them aware of the unique and time-sensitive needs of individuals who have arranged to be cryopreserved after clinical death.
Please email me if you are interested and would like to learn more. Our next meeting will be in late November.
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In further news, a club has been started at UBC to promote awareness and research in the fields cryonics and life extension. To learn more please visit http://ubcclec.wordpress.com - the first meeting is this Wednesday, Oct 6, from 6-8pm in the Student Union Building, Room 212.
Cheers,
Keegan
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Message #32904
From: [email protected]
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2010 22:00:54 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Reason 2
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Why successful uploading is unlikely, ever.
Reason 2. Bad physics. The simulation MUST be erroneous in some ways and
some degree, because the program necessarily is based on current knowledge
or guesses about physics, some of which is certainly wrong or incomplete,
and this will be true for a long time to come. The importance of these
errors is yet uncertain, but their existence is not. Remember that just about
all of the once-dominant "laws" of physics have eventually been shown to be
wrong, inaccurate or incomplete.
It continues to amaze me that most people not only have not considered
this fact, but do not acknowledge it even when told.
Robert Ettinger
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