CryoNet #33294 - #33297

CryoNet - Tue 1 Feb 2011

    #33294: Faith/Glauben [Jens Rabis]
    #33295: When does that other 21st Century start? [MARK PLUS]
    #33296: Re: CryoNet #33291 - #33293 [Freeposity]
    #33297: Re: again, religiosity and target groups [Mike Perry]

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Message #33294
From: "Jens Rabis" <[email protected]>
Subject: Faith/Glauben
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 12:35:38 +0100

Hi cryonauts,

Faith/Believe/Think = the honest(!) admit to know that we know nothing.
Therefore, it is also called Faith/Believe/Think and not knowledge.
Why do we pay multi-billion euros and thousands of scientists for example
for the LHC particle accelerator?
Non-few scientists are also religious. The churches, also the papal academy
observe LHC.

http://www.google.de/webhp?hl=de&ie=UTF-8&tl=de&tbo=u&tbs=nws:1&source=og&sa
=N&tab=Tn#hl=de&ds=n&xhr=t&q=LHC+particle+accelerator&cp=24&pf=p&sclient=psy
&site=webhp&tbs=nws:1&source=hp&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=LHC+particle+accelerator&p
bx=1&fp=daa2242c63b0d16b


The rest is politics, personal and economic interests. Stupidity,
half-knowledge and brain washing.
Fuck, who's that hot girl one the MIDI keyboard? :
http://www.myvideo.de/watch/5571566/Faithless_God_Is_A_DJ



****

Glauben = das ehrliche(!) Eingestandnis zu wissen, dass man nichts weiss.
Daher sagt man ja auch Glauben und nicht Wissen.
Warum bezahlen wir Multimilliarden Euros und tausende Wissenschaftler fur
z.Bsp.  den LHC Teilchenbeschleuniger. Nichtwenige Wissenschaftler sind auch
Religios. Die Kirchen, auch die papstliche Akademie beobachten LHC.

http://www.google.de/webhp?sa=N&hl=de&tab=Tw#hl=de&xhr=t&q=LHC+Teilchenbesch
leuniger&cp=17&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbo=u&tbs=nws:1&source=og&sa=N&tab=wn&fp=daa224
2c63b0d16b

Der Rest ist Politik, personliche und wirtschaftliche Interessen. Dummheit,
Halbwissen und Hirnwasche.
Fuck, wer ist das heisse Girl an dem Midi-Keybord?:
http://www.myvideo.de/watch/5571566/Faithless_God_Is_A_DJ


Best greetings
Jens Rabis
Germany-Berlin
" The time is with us, we can ... more! Life is for my ... curiosity :-) "

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Message #33295
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 09:42:09 -0700
Subject: When does that other 21st Century start?
From: MARK PLUS <[email protected]>

I sympathize with Peter Thiel's desire* to hit a metaphorical "reset
button" which takes us back to the science-fictional visions of the
1950's and 1960's, so that we can try to make more of them real this
time.

What happened to that other 21st Century I read about as a youngster?
You know, the one where by the year 2011 we'd normally wear unitards
or jumpsuits (preferably with advanced technologies embedded in them
to protect us from death by misadventure, as FM-2030 writes about in
"Countdown to Immortality"); the one with the moon and L-5 colonies;
the one with the cities covered by geodesic domes; the one with
hypersonic jet travel; the one where we'd have 150 year life
expectancies (despite the confusion that idea reflects, given that we
define life expectancy retrospectively from population statistics);
the one with advanced and nearly reversible cryotransport; the one
where people wouldn't have to flee from countries experiencing
Malthusian social breakdowns; etc.



* http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2011/0214/features-peter-thiel-social-media-life-after-facebook.html

--
Mark Plus
Life is short: Freeze hard!

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Message #33296
References: <[email protected]>
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 12:00:21 -0600
Subject: Re: CryoNet #33291 - #33293
From: Freeposity <[email protected]>

On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 4:00 AM, CryoNet <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Since when did atheism mean "a lack of belief"?

For a long time now.

Freeposity
Your friendly neighborhood agnostic atheist.

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Message #33297
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 11:10:55 -0700
From: Mike Perry <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: again, religiosity and target groups
References: <[email protected]>

Universal Immortalism is essentially the "Americanized" version of 
Cosmism and strongly endorses cryonics. (Voting members in its 
organization are required to have cryonics arrangements.) Check out 
the Beliefs at

http://www.universalimmortalism.org/beliefs.html

Another group with a very similar outlook is Terasem Foundation, 
http://www.terasemcentral.org/

Finally, the Venturists are a transhumanist group that strongly 
endorses cryonics (all members are required to have cryonics 
arrangements): http://www.venturist.org/


MP



>From: David Stodolsky <[email protected]>
>Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 14:37:21 +0100
>References: <[email protected]>
>
>[...]
>There are humanists groups that have a positive program, but none of 
>these are supportive of cryonics. Cosmism appears to be the most 
>well founded philosophic position that supports cryonics:
>
><https://sites.google.com/a/cosmism.info/cosmism/what-is-cosmism>
>
>
>dss

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