RE: Power and civilization
Pat Mathews <[email protected]> Thu, 29 Nov 2012 17:39:55 -0700
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--===============7845490045409607573== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_369479b1-451f-46b4-a57d-210e9ff4d061_" --_369479b1-451f-46b4-a57d-210e9ff4d061_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable John Barnes' Directive 51 went it one better - ALL petroleum and petroleum = products. It did devolve into the question of whether it was a centrally or= ganized conspiracy=2C preferably from abroad=2C or a spontaneous movement= =3B in fact=2C the entire US splits over that question=2C thanks to a disag= reement in the administration on whose watch it happens. There is a sequel= =3B not sure there is a third.=20 Date: Thu=2C 29 Nov 2012 18:49:34 -0500 Subject: Re: Power and civilization From: [email protected] To: brin-l-r0TUnz/JSrZWk0Htik3J/[email protected] I'm reading John Varley's Slow Apocalypse. The premise is that all un-proce= ssed petroleum is destroyed by an act of bio-terrorism. In the middle of it= right now=2C but so far it's scaring the spit out of me. john On Thu=2C Nov 29=2C 2012 at 5:26 PM=2C <[email protected]> wrote: =20 Twas in Last And First Men=2C by Olaf Stapledon=2C I think=2C where all fut= ure=20 civilizations had their power based upon alcohol. Nothing stored from the p= ast=20 was left. =20 =20 In a message dated 11/29/2012 12:58:45 P.M. US Mountain Standard Tim=2C=20 net_democracy-/[email protected] writes: The=20 measure of a civilization could be said to be it's consumption of energy = and=20 how it uses resources. Conspicuous v. sustainable... =20 =20 _______________________________________________ http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com _______________________________________________ http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com _______________________________________________ http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com = --_369479b1-451f-46b4-a57d-210e9ff4d061_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html> <head> <style><!-- .hmmessage P { margin:0px=3B padding:0px } body.hmmessage { font-size: 10pt=3B font-family:Tahoma } --></style></head> <body class=3D'hmmessage'><div dir=3D'ltr'> John Barnes' Directive 51 went it one better - ALL petroleum and petroleum = products. It did devolve into the question of whether it was a centrally or= ganized conspiracy=2C preferably from abroad=2C or a spontaneous movement= =3B in fact=2C the entire US splits over that question=2C thanks to a disag= reement in the administration on whose watch it happens. There is a sequel= =3B not sure there is a third. <br><br><div><div id=3D"SkyDrivePlaceholder"= ></div><hr id=3D"stopSpelling">Date: Thu=2C 29 Nov 2012 18:49:34 -0500<br>S= ubject: Re: Power and civilization<br>From: [email protected]<br>To: brin-l= @mccmedia.com<br><br>I'm reading John Varley's Slow Apocalypse. The premise= is that all un-processed petroleum is destroyed by an act of bio-terrorism= . In the middle of it right now=2C but so far it's scaring the spit out of = me.<br><br> john<br><br><div class=3D"ecxgmail_quote">On Thu=2C Nov 29=2C 2012 at 5:26 = PM=2C <span dir=3D"ltr"><=3B<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">Mediev= [email protected]</a>>=3B</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"ecxgmail_quote= " style=3D"border-left:1px #ccc solid=3Bpadding-left:1ex"> <u></u> <div style=3D"font-size:10pt=3Bfont-family:Arial"><font color=3D"#000000" f= ace=3D"Arial"> <div> <div> <div> <div></div></div> <div> <div> <div></div></div></div> <h3><span></span> =3B</h3></div></div> <div>Twas in Last And First Men=2C by Olaf Stapledon=2C I think=2C where al= l future=20 civilizations had their power based upon alcohol. Nothing stored from the p= ast=20 was left.</div> <div> =3B</div> <div> =3B</div> <div>In a message dated 11/29/2012 12:58:45 P.M. US Mountain Standard Tim= =2C=20 <a href=3D"mailto:net_democracy-/[email protected]">net_democracy-/[email protected]</a> writ= es:</div> <blockquote style=3D"border-left:blue 2px solid=3Bpadding-left:5px=3Bmargin= -left:5px"><font style=3D"background-color:transparent" color=3D"#000000" f= ace=3D"Arial">The=20 measure of a civilization could be said to be it's consumption of energy = and=20 how it uses resources. =3B Conspicuous v. sustainable... =3B=20 <br><br>_______________________________________________<br><a href=3D"htt= p://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com" target=3D"_bl= ank">http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com</a></f= ont><font style=3D"background-color:transparent" color=3D"#000000" face=3D"= Arial"><br> </font></blockquote></font></div><br>______________________________________= _________<br> <a href=3D"http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com"= target=3D"_blank">http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccme= dia.com</a><br> <br> <br></blockquote></div><br> <br>_______________________________________________ http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com</div> = </div></body> </html>= --_369479b1-451f-46b4-a57d-210e9ff4d061_-- --===============7845490045409607573== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline