Re: Power and civilization
John Garcia <[email protected]> Thu, 29 Nov 2012 19:51:58 -0500
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--===============4509993455787249778== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b6049ba97bd8904cfabce35 --047d7b6049ba97bd8904cfabce35 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I'm picking up Directive 51 from the NY Public Library in the next day or two. On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 7:39 PM, Pat Mathews <[email protected]> wrote: > John Barnes' Directive 51 went it one better - ALL petroleum and > petroleum products. It did devolve into the question of whether it was a > centrally organized conspiracy, preferably from abroad, or a spontaneous > movement; in fact, the entire US splits over that question, thanks to a > disagreement in the administration on whose watch it happens. There is a > sequel; not sure there is a third. > > ------------------------------ > Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 18:49:34 -0500 > Subject: Re: Power and civilization > From: [email protected] > To: brin-l-r0TUnz/JSrZWk0Htik3J/[email protected] > > I'm reading John Varley's Slow Apocalypse. The premise is that all > un-processed petroleum is destroyed by an act of bio-terrorism. In the > middle of it right now, but so far it's scaring the spit out of me. > > john > > On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 5:26 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > > ** > > Twas in Last And First Men, by Olaf Stapledon, I think, where all future > civilizations had their power based upon alcohol. Nothing stored from the > past was left. > > > In a message dated 11/29/2012 12:58:45 P.M. US Mountain Standard Tim, > net_democracy-/[email protected] writes: > > The measure of a civilization could be said to be it's consumption of > energy and how it uses resources. Conspicuous v. sustainable... > > _______________________________________________ > http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com > > > _______________________________________________ > http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com > > _______________________________________________ > http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com > > > --047d7b6049ba97bd8904cfabce35 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm picking up Directive 51 from the NY Public Library in the next day = or two.<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 7:39 PM, = Pat Mathews <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" targ= et=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p= x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <div><div dir=3D"ltr"> John Barnes' Directive 51 went it one better - ALL petroleum and petrol= eum products. It did devolve into the question of whether it was a centrall= y organized conspiracy, preferably from abroad, or a spontaneous movement; = in fact, the entire US splits over that question, thanks to a disagreement = in the administration on whose watch it happens. There is a sequel; not sur= e there is a third. <br> <br><div><div></div><hr>Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 18:49:34 -0500<br>Subject: R= e: Power and civilization<br>From: <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" tar= get=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a><br>To: <a href=3D"mailto:brin-l@mccmed= ia.com" target=3D"_blank">brin-l-r0TUnz/JSrZWk0Htik3J/[email protected]</a><br> <br>I'm reading John Varley's Slow Apocalypse. The premise is that = all un-processed petroleum is destroyed by an act of bio-terrorism. In the = middle of it right now, but so far it's scaring the spit out of me.<br> <br> john<br><br><div>On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 5:26 PM, <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a= href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a= >></span> wrote:<br><blockquote style=3D"border-left:1px #ccc solid;padd= ing-left:1ex"> <u></u> <div style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><font color=3D"#000000" fac= e=3D"Arial"> <div> <div> <div> <div></div></div> <div> <div> <div></div></div></div> <h3><span></span>=A0</h3></div></div> <div>Twas in Last And First Men, by Olaf Stapledon, I think, where all futu= re=20 civilizations had their power based upon alcohol. Nothing stored from the p= ast=20 was left.</div> <div>=A0</div> <div>=A0</div> <div>In a message dated 11/29/2012 12:58:45 P.M. US Mountain Standard Tim,= =20 <a href=3D"mailto:net_democracy-/[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">net_democracy@= yahoo.com</a> writes:</div> <blockquote style=3D"border-left:blue 2px solid;padding-left:5px;margin-lef= t:5px"><font style=3D"background-color:transparent" color=3D"#000000" face= =3D"Arial">The=20 measure of a civilization could be said to be it's consumption of ene= rgy and=20 how it uses resources.=A0 Conspicuous v. sustainable...=A0=20 <br><br>_______________________________________________<br><a href=3D"htt= p://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com" target=3D"_bl= ank">http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com</a></f= ont><font style=3D"background-color:transparent" color=3D"#000000" face=3D"= Arial"><br> </font></blockquote></font></div><br>______________________________________= _________<br> <a href=3D"http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com"= target=3D"_blank">http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccme= dia.com</a><br> <br> <br></blockquote></div><br> <br>_______________________________________________ <a href=3D"http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com"= target=3D"_blank">http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccme= dia.com</a></div> </div></div> <br>_______________________________________________<br> <a href=3D"http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com"= target=3D"_blank">http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccme= dia.com</a><br> <br> <br></blockquote></div><br> --047d7b6049ba97bd8904cfabce35-- --===============4509993455787249778== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline