Re: 2 UI comments on the Alpha Sneak Preview

Brian King <[email protected]> Wed, 24 Sep 2003 12:50:07 +0200
Newsgroups gmane.editors.bitflux.devel
Message-ID <[email protected]>
FYI ...

> - XUL within XHTML doesn't work properly. Or better said, _I_ couldn't 
> make it work properly ;) One of the main ideas of BXE was and still is 
> to provide easy integration in existing projects/CMS/you-name-it. And 
> therefore it has to work with simple HTML documents. It's too much pain 
> to have the implementators force to deliver XUL, IMHO.

Are BXE loaded documents XML or XHTML?

http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=183641
http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=70049

> - remote xul is also one of those not much used features out there. You 
> get a lot of tutorials/help etc, if you serve XUL from your chrome 
> directory, but leaving that, you're mostly on you own (maybe that 
> improved). Furthermore you have a lot of security restrictions if you 
> serve XUL remotely. This is another goal of BXE: It should work 
> remotely, meaning you don't have to install anything to get it work 
> (this will change a little in the future, if you want some of the more 
> advanced stuff, which you only can make work, if it's installed locally, 
> like really-native-clipboard access, saving to local files, etc..)

http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=133695

More details for the interested here:
http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/mozilla/2002/12/17/app_dev.html
http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/mozilla/2003/05/02/casestudy2.html

> Having said that, i'd like to point out, that there are implementations 
> for mozile, which use XUL, and AFAIK the xpi version of mozile does have 
> a seperate tool bar as well.

I have not looked at mozile, but their XPI must be installing the 
toolbar into chrome. This would be one option for BXE ... though would 
not be cross-browser. You could have an optional XUL toolbar, but this 
would mean maintaining 2 toolbars, the HTML one and this one.

-- 
Brian King
www.mozdev.org
www.mozdevgroup.com

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