Re: 2 UI comments on the Alpha Sneak Preview

On 9/24/03 12:50 PM, Brian King wrote:

> FYI ...
> 
>> - XUL within XHTML doesn't work properly. Or better said, _I_ couldn't 
>> make it work properly ;) One of the main ideas of BXE was and still is 
>> to provide easy integration in existing projects/CMS/you-name-it. And 
>> therefore it has to work with simple HTML documents. It's too much 
>> pain to have the implementators force to deliver XUL, IMHO.
> 
> 
> Are BXE loaded documents XML or XHTML?

(X)HTML, doesn't matter right now, if with X or without ;)


> http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=183641
> http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=70049
> 
>> - remote xul is also one of those not much used features out there. 
>> You get a lot of tutorials/help etc, if you serve XUL from your chrome 
>> directory, but leaving that, you're mostly on you own (maybe that 
>> improved). Furthermore you have a lot of security restrictions if you 
>> serve XUL remotely. This is another goal of BXE: It should work 
>> remotely, meaning you don't have to install anything to get it work 
>> (this will change a little in the future, if you want some of the more 
>> advanced stuff, which you only can make work, if it's installed 
>> locally, like really-native-clipboard access, saving to local files, 
>> etc..)
> 
> 
> http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=133695
> 
> More details for the interested here:
> http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/mozilla/2002/12/17/app_dev.html
> http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/mozilla/2003/05/02/casestudy2.html

ah, cool, thanks for those links, will have to look deeper into it later.
> 
>> Having said that, i'd like to point out, that there are 
>> implementations for mozile, which use XUL, and AFAIK the xpi version 
>> of mozile does have a seperate tool bar as well.
> 
> 
> I have not looked at mozile, but their XPI must be installing the 
> toolbar into chrome. This would be one option for BXE ... though would 
> not be cross-browser. You could have an optional XUL toolbar, but this 
> would mean maintaining 2 toolbars, the HTML one and this one.

Yep, the idea of the new BXE was always, that it's possible to change 
the widget-system and that you can have different ones. Was just not my 
priority to actually test, if it works ;)

chregu

> 

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