Re: How could total separation of content (xhtml/xml) and presentation (CSS) be achieved with the Bitflux Editor (or Mozile)?

Christian Stocker <[email protected]> Fri, 4 Mar 2005 04:05:01 +0100 (CET)
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Hi Simon


I'm on vacation until next monday in a week. I'm happy to answer your
questions thoroughly but you have to wait until then ;)

chregu

On Fri, 4 Mar 2005, Simon Rönnqvist wrote:

>    Hi!
>
> * * * BACKGROUND * * *
> For my thesis work I'm looking for a CMS along with a WYSIWYG that
> would support separation of content from presentation (CSS) to the best
> possible degree. BxCMS and Lenya are my candidates for the CMS but at
> least the Bitflux Editor seems to be a clear winner when it comes to
> the WYSIWYG-editor. (Or would even Mozile be good for the job?)
> Therefore I'd like to evaluate the Bitflux Editor's (and possibly
> Mozile's) abilities for separation of content and presentation. If
> you'd be very interested in this evaluation I could consider writing
> the thesis in English, otherwise I might stick to my mother's thounge
> Swedish. :-) Do you have any comments or thoughts about these things?
>
> * * * TO THE POINT * * *
> One thing which I at this point think seems to be missing from the
> Bitflux Editor (and Mozile) is an ability to edit external
> CSS-properties. :-) It'd be great if one for example could give an
> image a specific ID and then in the separate CSS float that element
> right or left. To my present understanding (correct me if I'm wrong)
> I'd have to specify a class i.e. called left or right, which
> semantically wouldn't make any sense. Then I might just as well specify
> a style="float: ..." attribute instead, and then the separation of
> content and style would have failed at that point. (One could of course
> argue wether there's a need for total separation or not, but let's say
> there is. This img floating is just an example.)
>
> Basically what I'd be looking for is an ability to assign ID:s and
> classes to elements and then to make certain predefined css-properties
> apply to the ID:s or classes of choise. One could build a separate
> CSS-editor which could be used with any WYSIWYG xhtml/xml editor that
> would allow the user to define class and id attributes for the
> elements. But a better idea would be to integrate the CSS-editor with
> the WYSIWYG so that all style related data (CSS) would automatically be
> separated from the markup (html/xml) without the user even having to
> know about it.
>
> More on this here:
> http://digital-web.com/articles/integrating_css_with_cms/comments/
> #comment835
>
> So to begin with I guess being able to assign class and ID attributes
> to different elements would get me quite far. To my understanding this
> is at least possible in Bitflux Editor 2.0, isn't it? How about Bitflux
> Editor 1.0 or even Mozile? (I'd prefer being able to specify attributes
> directly to elements such as img-tags, extra span and div-tags would do
> the job but in a rather ugly way.)
>
> Do btw. all or any of these editors have a possibility to give the user
> a set of choises of classes (or other attributes)?
> I.e. <div class="floatLeft">, <div class="floatRight"> and so on... and
> not just tags without attributes.
>
>    regards, Simon
>
>

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