Re: $JAVA_HOME, 5.7 no FTB

Derek Christiansen <[email protected]> Sun, 23 Mar 2025 18:17:29 -0700
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Well, spoke too soon. After trying to open as many files as possible from
FTP, it
appears 7 or 8 is the limit (per session)...I opened 5 closed them all,
then opened
3 more and it froze again...this using the pre-release FTP and the current
version.

So, that's a real bug. In the meantime I'll confine myself to being aware
that I need to
quit the app after opening 7 or 8 FTP files.

BTW: I'm a remote worker and all my day-to-day activity is done via FTP in
jedit.
This app has been my workhorse for a long time.

On Sun, Mar 23, 2025 at 5:37=E2=80=AFPM Derek Christiansen <slis.derek@gmai=
l.com>
wrote:

> Thank you. That's super kind of you, and unexpected.
>
> Have to say after getting the $JAVA_HOME thing squared away and setting
> the correct path and setting 21 as default using java-common tools I've
> made
> the freezing bug go away.
>
> My old friend, jedit, is back to its reliable self. I am so happy. Using
> 5.6 with Java 21
> every thing is working fine.  So, I'll wait for the production release of
> FTP and when
> 5.7 is working well with the new FTP I'll do the upgrade.
>
> Thanks again for being so responsive.
>
> On Sun, Mar 23, 2025 at 5:23=E2=80=AFPM Alan Ezust <[email protected]>=
 wrote:
>
>> Here is a pre-release on google drive.
>>
>> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1bvedx-mqVU4JGdhXYrjtxka6LFeA6-YW=
?usp=3Dsharing
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 23, 2025 at 9:45=E2=80=AFAM Derek Christiansen <slis.derek@g=
mail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> One last bit. I resolved the $JAVA_HOME bit by adding lines to ~/.profi=
le
>>>
>>> AND...the big issue [freezing] only happens in when using FTP. Local
>>> files
>>> cause no conflict.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Mar 23, 2025 at 8:44=E2=80=AFAM Derek Christiansen <slis.derek@=
gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> One more thing...reading the devel mailing list I see there is some
>>>> issue with Java version.
>>>> Should I be using 11 rather 21?
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Mar 23, 2025 at 8:32=E2=80=AFAM Derek Christiansen <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thank you for the update. That still doesn't address the Java mess or
>>>>> the fact that it
>>>>> freezes when too many files are opened. I noticed that was an open
>>>>> item on bug tracker:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://sourceforge.net/p/jedit/bugs/4134/
>>>>>
>>>>> I posted this there:
>>>>>
>>>>> I've had this problem when opening too many files at once. One of
>>>>>> things that's great about jedit is the infinite divisibility of the =
editor
>>>>>> window. I used to be able to open 15 separate windows. By reverting =
back
>>>>>> 5.4 the problem exists but goes away if I close a file. In 5.5 & 5.6=
 the
>>>>>> app needs to closed and reopened.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Mar 23, 2025 at 7:28=E2=80=AFAM Alan Ezust <alan.ezust@gmail.=
com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> There will be a newer release of FTP soon. The release announcement
>>>>>> was already made.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 21, 2025 at 9:47=E2=80=AFAM Derek Christiansen <
>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I meant FTP...jedit is useless without it. I've been a jedit user
>>>>>>> for over 10 years and I've
>>>>>>> had to scuttle it and now use VS Code (after trying Kate, Cuda,
>>>>>>> Codium).
>>>>>>> Gedit is excellent but no code folding which is a must.
>>>>>>> It breaks my heart to do it because I've loved jedit. But now it
>>>>>>> freezes if I open too many files
>>>>>>> and the newest version is broken. (Dicking with Java sucks).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 21, 2025 at 9:25=E2=80=AFAM Dale Anson <dale@daleanson.=
com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No, I was talking about some tools that Ubuntu has for managing
>>>>>>>> java installations. This article has a pretty good description:
>>>>>>>> https://hostman.com/tutorials/switching-between-java-versions-on-u=
buntu/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What is FTB/SFTB?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 21, 2025 at 9:17=E2=80=AFAM Derek Christiansen <
>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In my jvm directory I have 'default-java' is that what you mean?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 21, 2025 at 9:14=E2=80=AFAM Dale Anson <dale@daleanso=
n.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Do you have the Ubuntu java-common package installed? That
>>>>>>>>>> package provides the update-java-alternatives utility which allo=
ws you to
>>>>>>>>>> choose and switch between installed versions of java.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 19, 2025 at 1:52=E2=80=AFPM Derek Christiansen <
>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Like others before me I had to scuttle 5.7 as SFTB doesn't work=
.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Of note, Ubuntu syslog always throws this:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 2025-03-19T13:38:29.926376-07:00 INF-DEREK-LINUX
>>>>>>>>>>>> jedit.desktop[42878]: Warning: $JAVA_HOME environment variable=
 not set!
>>>>>>>>>>>> Consider setting it.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2025-03-19T13:38:29.926493-07:00 INF-DEREK-LINUX
>>>>>>>>>>>> jedit.desktop[42878]:          Attempting to locate java...
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2025-03-19T13:38:29.926773-07:00 INF-DEREK-LINUX
>>>>>>>>>>>> jedit.desktop[42878]: Found a virtual machine at: /usr/bin/jav=
a...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> the one found points to the actual JRE through 2 symlinks.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> but BASH shows this:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  $ echo $JAVA_HOME
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> /usr/lib/jvm/java-21-openjdk-amd64/bin/java
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> but activity log shows:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 1:45:48=E2=80=AFPM [main] [message] Log: java.version=3D21.0.6
>>>>>>>>>>> 1:45:48=E2=80=AFPM [main] [message] Log:
>>>>>>>>>>> java.vm.version=3D21.0.6+7-Ubuntu-124.04.1
>>>>>>>>>>> 1:45:48=E2=80=AFPM [main] [message] Log: java.vm.name=3DOpenJDK=
 64-Bit
>>>>>>>>>>> Server VM
>>>>>>>>>>> 1:45:48=E2=80=AFPM [main] [message] Log:
>>>>>>>>>>> java.runtime.version=3D21.0.6+7-Ubuntu-124.04.1
>>>>>>>>>>> 1:45:48=E2=80=AFPM [main] [message] Log: java.runtime.name=3DOp=
enJDK
>>>>>>>>>>> Runtime Environment
>>>>>>>>>>> 1:45:48=E2=80=AFPM [main] [message] Log: java.vendor=3DUbuntu
>>>>>>>>>>> 1:45:48=E2=80=AFPM [main] [message] Log: java.compiler=3Dnull
>>>>>>>>>>> 1:45:48=E2=80=AFPM [main] [message] Log: os.name=3DLinux
>>>>>>>>>>> 1:45:48=E2=80=AFPM [main] [message] Log: os.version=3D6.8.0-55-=
generic
>>>>>>>>>>> 1:45:48=E2=80=AFPM [main] [message] Log: os.arch=3Damd64
>>>>>>>>>>> 1:45:48=E2=80=AFPM [main] [message] Log: user.home=3D/home/dere=
k
>>>>>>>>>>> 1:45:48=E2=80=AFPM [main] [message] Log:
>>>>>>>>>>> java.home=3D/usr/lib/jvm/java-21-openjdk-amd64
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Note it truncates the location of the java executable.  This
>>>>>>>>>>> jedit 5.5 but the same was true for 5.7
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Well, spoke too soon. After trying to open as many files a=
s possible from FTP, it<div>appears 7 or 8 is the limit (per session)...I o=
pened 5 closed them all, then opened=C2=A0</div><div>3 more and it froze ag=
ain...this using the pre-release FTP and the current version.</div><div><br=
></div><div>So, that&#39;s a real bug. In the meantime I&#39;ll confine mys=
elf to being aware that I need to</div><div>quit the app after opening 7 or=
 8 FTP files.</div><div><br></div><div>BTW: I&#39;m a remote worker and all=
 my day-to-day activity is done via FTP in jedit.</div><div>This app has be=
en my workhorse for a long time.</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote g=
mail_quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Mar 23,=
 2025 at 5:37=E2=80=AFPM Derek Christiansen &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:slis.dere=
[email protected]">[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rg=
b(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Thank you. That&#39;s sup=
er kind of you, and unexpected.<div><br></div><div>Have to say after gettin=
g the $JAVA_HOME thing squared away and setting</div><div>the correct path =
and setting 21 as default using java-common tools I&#39;ve made</div><div>t=
he freezing bug go away.</div><div><br></div><div>My old friend, jedit, is =
back to its reliable self. I am so happy. Using 5.6 with Java 21</div><div>=
every thing is working fine.=C2=A0 So, I&#39;ll wait for the production rel=
ease of FTP and when</div><div>5.7 is working well with the new FTP I&#39;l=
l do the upgrade.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks again for being so respon=
sive.=C2=A0</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" clas=
s=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Mar 23, 2025 at 5:23=E2=80=AFPM Alan Ezust &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]=
</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:=
0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">=
<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Here is a pre-release on google drive.</div><div><a h=
ref=3D"https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1bvedx-mqVU4JGdhXYrjtxka6LFeA=
6-YW?usp=3Dsharing" target=3D"_blank">https://drive.google.com/drive/folder=
s/1bvedx-mqVU4JGdhXYrjtxka6LFeA6-YW?usp=3Dsharing</a></div><div><br></div><=
div><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=
=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Mar 23, 2025 at 9:45=E2=80=AFAM Derek Christiansen =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">slis.derek@gm=
ail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"=
margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-lef=
t:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">One last bit. I resolved the $JAVA_HOME bit by addi=
ng lines to ~/.profile<div><br></div><div>AND...the big issue [freezing] on=
ly happens in when using FTP. Local files</div><div>cause no conflict.</div=
></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr"=
>On Sun, Mar 23, 2025 at 8:44=E2=80=AFAM Derek Christiansen &lt;<a href=3D"=
mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>&gt;=
 wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px =
0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=
=3D"ltr">One more thing...reading the devel mailing list I see there is som=
e issue with Java version.<div>Should I be using 11 rather 21?</div></div><=
br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun,=
 Mar 23, 2025 at 8:32=E2=80=AFAM Derek Christiansen &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:s=
[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:<=
br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8e=
x;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>Thank=C2=A0you for the update. That still doesn&#39;t address the Java mes=
s or the fact that it=C2=A0<div>freezes when too many files are opened. I n=
oticed that was an open item on bug tracker:</div><div><br></div><div><a hr=
ef=3D"https://sourceforge.net/p/jedit/bugs/4134/" target=3D"_blank">https:/=
/sourceforge.net/p/jedit/bugs/4134/</a></div><div><br></div><div>I posted t=
his there:</div><div><br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"m=
argin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left=
:1ex">I&#39;ve had this problem when opening too many files at once. One of=
 things
 that&#39;s great about jedit is the infinite divisibility of the editor=20
window. I used to be able to open 15 separate windows. By reverting back
 5.4 the problem exists but goes away if I close a file. In 5.5 &amp;=20
5.6 the app needs to closed and reopened.=C2=A0</blockquote></div><br><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Mar 23,=
 2025 at 7:28=E2=80=AFAM Alan Ezust &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:alan.ezust@gmail.=
com" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockq=
uote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1p=
x solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>There will=
 be a newer release of FTP soon. The release announcement was already made.=
</div><div><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Mar 21, 2025 at 9:47=E2=80=AFAM Derek Christia=
nsen &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">slis.der=
[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" styl=
e=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);paddin=
g-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">I meant FTP...jedit is useless without it. I&#=
39;ve been a jedit user for over 10 years and I&#39;ve=C2=A0<div>had to scu=
ttle it and now use VS Code (after trying Kate, Cuda, Codium).</div><div>Ge=
dit is excellent but no code folding which is a must.</div><div>It breaks m=
y heart to do it because I&#39;ve loved jedit. But now it freezes if I open=
 too many files</div><div>and the newest version is broken. (Dicking with J=
ava sucks).</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" clas=
s=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Mar 21, 2025 at 9:25=E2=80=AFAM Dale Anson &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>=
&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px =
0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div=
 dir=3D"ltr">No, I was talking about some tools that Ubuntu has for managin=
g java installations. This article has a pretty good description:=C2=A0<a h=
ref=3D"https://hostman.com/tutorials/switching-between-java-versions-on-ubu=
ntu/" target=3D"_blank">https://hostman.com/tutorials/switching-between-jav=
a-versions-on-ubuntu/</a><div><br></div><div>What is FTB/SFTB?=C2=A0</div><=
/div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">O=
n Fri, Mar 21, 2025 at 9:17=E2=80=AFAM Derek Christiansen &lt;<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>&gt; w=
rote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0p=
x 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=
=3D"ltr">In my jvm directory I have &#39;default-java&#39; is that what you=
 mean?</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_=
attr">On Fri, Mar 21, 2025 at 9:14=E2=80=AFAM Dale Anson &lt;<a href=3D"mai=
lto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:=
<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8=
ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr=
">Do you have the Ubuntu java-common package installed? That package provid=
es the update-java-alternatives utility which allows you to choose and swit=
ch between installed versions of java.=C2=A0</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_q=
uote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Mar 19, 2025 at 1:52=E2=
=80=AFPM Derek Christiansen &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" tar=
get=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote cla=
ss=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid =
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Like others before me I=
 had to scuttle 5.7 as SFTB doesn&#39;t work.<div><br></div><div>Of note, U=
buntu syslog always throws this:</div><div><br></div><blockquote class=3D"g=
mail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204=
,204,204);padding-left:1ex">2025-03-19T13:38:29.926376-07:00 INF-DEREK-LINU=
X jedit.desktop[42878]: Warning: $JAVA_HOME environment variable not set! C=
onsider setting it.<br>2025-03-19T13:38:29.926493-07:00 INF-DEREK-LINUX jed=
it.desktop[42878]: =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Attempting to locate j=
ava...<br>2025-03-19T13:38:29.926773-07:00 INF-DEREK-LINUX jedit.desktop[42=
878]: Found a virtual machine at: /usr/bin/java...</blockquote><div>the one=
 found points to the actual JRE through 2 symlinks.=C2=A0</div><div><br></d=
iv><div>but BASH shows this:</div><div><br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail=
_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204=
,204);padding-left:1ex">=C2=A0$ echo $JAVA_HOME</blockquote><blockquote cla=
ss=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid =
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">/usr/lib/jvm/java-21-openjdk-amd64/bin/j=
ava</blockquote><div><br></div><div>but activity log shows:</div><div>=C2=
=A0</div>1:45:48=E2=80=AFPM [main] [message] Log: java.version=3D21.0.6<br>=
1:45:48=E2=80=AFPM [main] [message] Log: java.vm.version=3D21.0.6+7-Ubuntu-=
124.04.1<br>1:45:48=E2=80=AFPM [main] [message] Log: <a href=3D"http://java=
.vm.name" target=3D"_blank">java.vm.name</a>=3DOpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM<br>=
1:45:48=E2=80=AFPM [main] [message] Log: java.runtime.version=3D21.0.6+7-Ub=
untu-124.04.1<br>1:45:48=E2=80=AFPM [main] [message] Log: <a href=3D"http:/=
/java.runtime.name" target=3D"_blank">java.runtime.name</a>=3DOpenJDK Runti=
me Environment<br>1:45:48=E2=80=AFPM [main] [message] Log: java.vendor=3DUb=
untu<br>1:45:48=E2=80=AFPM [main] [message] Log: java.compiler=3Dnull<br>1:=
45:48=E2=80=AFPM [main] [message] Log: <a href=3D"http://os.name" target=3D=
"_blank">os.name</a>=3DLinux<br>1:45:48=E2=80=AFPM [main] [message] Log: os=
.version=3D6.8.0-55-generic<br>1:45:48=E2=80=AFPM [main] [message] Log: os.=
arch=3Damd64<br>1:45:48=E2=80=AFPM [main] [message] Log: user.home=3D/home/=
derek<div>1:45:48=E2=80=AFPM [main] [message] Log: java.home=3D/usr/lib/jvm=
/java-21-openjdk-amd64=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>Note it truncates the=
 location of the java executable.=C2=A0 This jedit 5.5 but the same was tru=
e for 5.7</div></div>
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