Re: Yahoo Groups going away -> sedusers.org

Count me in, too; if you're counting heads ;o)


On 10/21/2019 10:27 AM, Sven Guckes [email protected] 
[sed-users] wrote:
>
> * Daniel Goldman <[email protected]> [2019-10-17 08:31]:
> > Sven, or whoever is current admin, do you have a way
> > to automatically download all the archived content?
> > I think it is very useful to save, one way or
> > another we *must* save it, because there are
> > many good examples and insights in the content.
>
> my current SEDUSERS folder contains 3,100+ messages.
> starting June 2005. so there's this backup.
>
> > Sven, or whoever is current admin, is there another platform
> > we might migrate to? Or stick with email-only group? Or other
> > preferred course of action? Any other thoughts or reflections?
>
> i had registered the domain sedusers.org exactly for this purpose.
> (by the way, maillists at my ISP (in-berlin.de) run on mailman.)
> the address of the list would simply be [email protected]
> which hopefully is the right name for this.
>
> in fact, i had prepared a transition in 2016..
> but then a few things happened to my health. :-/
>
> one of the open questions of this transition was whether we
> migrate all users onto a new list forcibly - or let them
> decide whether they want to subscribe again to it themselves.
>
> planC would be to simply auto-subscribe those who
> have posted to the list within the last two years
> and simply drop the rest. maybe those have been
> too lazy to unsubscribe, anyway. ;-)
>
> the new mailing list would definitely have these features:
> NO "reply-to: list", and NO default footer/signature, and
> NO attachments (also dropping text/html along the way).
>
> the rationale is that a reply-to-list might yield replies
> which are actually meant for private communication, and
> the result is usually from embarassing to catastrophic.
> besides, your mailer *should* have a command reply-to-list
> (based on the addresses in the List-* headers).
> this is the 3rd millennium, after all.
>
> besides, the moderation for first time posters has saved
> this list a TON of spam. and i would keep this as it is.
> thanks to Ruud van Tol for helping me with the moderation.
>
> i would also restrict the size of messages to, say, 10KB.
> my statistics over the years have shown
> that 97% of all messages were under 5KB.
>
> this also stops messages with TOFU
> (text over (above), full-quote under).
> as these pile up quite quickly. this has
> worked quite well for quite some other lists.
>
> as usual, i ask you all to strip yahoo's default
> footer from responses as everything that isn't
> necessary for a response, eg quoted signatures.
> this helps for smaller messages and a usable archive.
>
> a little bit of statistics:
> sed-users was founded on nov 23rd 2000 - almost 20 years ago.
> it currently has 1,590 members and has seen 10,000 messages.
>
> Sven
>
> 




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