Re: Draft framework

Ross Gardler <[email protected]> Sat, 18 Dec 2004 23:57:38 +0000
Newsgroups gmane.education.cis
Message-ID <LYRIS-221309-1272615-2004.12.18-18.57.43--gec-cis#[email protected]>
Allan Samaroo wrote:
> Ross Gardler wrote:
> 
>> Allan Samaroo wrote:
>>
>>> The following is the draft framework that Anil and I worked on 
>>> yesterday.  The wording for some points may be a little coarse, but i 
>>> hope it is sufficient at this stage for the points to get across. 
>>
>>
>>
>> This is looking good, thanks for taking the time to write it up for 
>> the list.
>>
>> Some comments...
>>
>>> => Cost of software tools / licenses, e.g. Frontpage, Dreamweaver, etc.
>>> ** Existing tools, e.g. Open Office or MS Word/Powerpoint can be used 
>>> to develop contennt, hence no purchase of software is necessary. 
>>> Burrokeet, a free software application, will be used to generate the 
>>> website, and also upload the website to the webserver.
>>
>>
>>
>> Burrokeet does not currently upload to the server at the click of a 
>> button, there are also other features that are not implemented yet 
>> (remember we are at version 0.1rc1). If you are going to make these 
>> promises then you better be sure that the resources are available to 
>> make such promised functionality work in Burrokeet.
> 
> 
> Anil as assured me that this functionality can be done in a few minutes. 
> To use the Burrokeet is basically a three step process.
> 
> 1. Develop content (OOo/Word)
> 2. Generate content (Burrokeet)
> 3. Upload to webserver (FTP Client)
> 
> It makes sense to integrate step 3 as part of the package for schools as 
> the upload would be transparent to the user and this adds to the user 
> friendliness of the solution.

The process is correct, but you text says Burrokeet will do it and my 
point is that Burrokeet does *not* do it right now. Of course it makes 
sense to integrate it but someone has to do it and that is all I am saying.

As it happens all my own sites use SVN to do the upload and therefore I 
(as the only other active developer on Burrokeet) will not be 
implementing this functionlaity. Hence if CIS is going to make this a 
promised deliverable then CIS need to make sure it is delivered.

> As Anil is already part of the dev list, he can manage those Burrokeet 
> aspects on our behalf during this pilot project.  Mind you, I've not 
> said this to discourage anyone from joining the dev list now if they want.
> 
> 
>>
>>> => Cost for maintenance / technical support.
>>> ** The CIS will provide support for the Burrokeet.
>>
>>
>>
>> Remember there are two levels of support: face-to-face support, which 
>> will be provided by CIS and online support. Online is is where CIS 
>> will get its support and also where your clients should be encouraged 
>> to go in order to reduce the workload on your own support mechanisms.
> 
> 
> Okay, yes and no.  The clients (schools in this case) will be given the 
> option, but can't be expected to do so at this time.
> 
> 
>> The Burrokeet project is the place to provide (online) support not 
>> CIS. This may be what you mean, but I just want to clarify.
> 
> 
> Online support was never brought up because most of the schools aren't 
> even online right now.  One of the objectives is to gently nudge them in 
> that direction.

If Anil is going to do *everything* for this ICS project then that is fine.

> Ridiculous.  

Oh, well I am sorry!

>>> => Content.
>>> ** The CIS can only suggest viable content topics.
>>
>>
>>
>> I believe you are aiming very low here. There is a *huge* range of 
>> materials out there that can be reproduced on school websites and that 
>> Burrokeet can easily incorporate. Shouldn't CIS be collating a 
>> catalogue of such resources in cooperation with the schools. I 
>> understand that many will not be applicable to the Caribbean but I am 
>> sure many others will be.
>>
> 
> Can you give us some examples, links etc to these materials.

Anil has already created a dynamic RSS feed for Burrokeet. Take a look 
at that, or ask Anil to expand.

Ross

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