Re: Sophocles Antigone - Question re English/German translations

But please note that Heidegger, on the other hand, chose in this case the
term "das Unheimliche" .

You would like, you write, to know whether "anyone could offer pointers to
relevant articles" .   Well, without looking more assiduously into the
matter, I *can* point you to at least three relevant articles, namely the
follwing :

Andrew Benjamin, "Placing speaking: notes on the first stasimon of
Sophocles' Antigone", in _Angelaki : journal of the theoretical
humanities_, vol. 9, no.2 (2004), p.55-66
=3D> especially p.57

Eric Kligerman, "The Antigone effect: reinterring the dead of 'Night and
Fog' in the German autumn", in _New German critique_, no.112 (2011), p.9-38
=3D> especially p.27

Felix Christen, "Verh=C3=A4ltnisse: Martin Heideggers 'Bemerkung zum
=C3=9Cbersetzen'", in _Variations_ vol.16 (2008), p.119-130
=3D> especially p.122-129

as well as :

Rafael Winkler, "Dwelling and hospitality: Heidegger and H=C3=B6lderlin", i=
n
_Research in phenomenology_, vol.47, no.3 (2017), p.366-387 .
=3D> especially p.382


All of these should be accessible online -- though not necessarily without
a subscription, a payment, or an institutional affiliation .

I hope that this helps you .


- Laval Hunsucker
  Br=C5=93uquelenne-les-deux-=C3=A9glises, Pays-Bas


On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 2:19 PM Patrick Ozzard-Low <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Hello
>
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> My first post to this list. If I am in the wrong place, or there's a bett=
er
> one to ask -- I'd be grateful to know -- Thanks!
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>
> I have some questions about *the relation between English and German
> translations of Antigone*. I don=E2=80=99t speak German or have a knowled=
ge of
> Ancient Greek, and at the moment no access to a good library.  The
> questions are for partly for CD notes, partly for personal interest.
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> In the first (famous) Stasimon, most English translations are given in
> terms of =E2=80=98Wonder=E2=80=99.  For example: =E2=80=98Wonders are man=
y, and none is more
> wonderful than man=E2=80=99. (Jebb)  // =E2=80=98Many are the Wonders, no=
ne / is more
> wonderful than what is man=E2=80=99.  (David Grene, Chicago) // =E2=80=98=
Among the many
> wonders of the world / Where is the equal of this creature, man?=E2=80=99=
 (Seamus
> Heaney, Faber).  Etc.
>
>
>
> In German, this is often phrased in terms of =E2=80=98Ungeheurer=E2=80=99=
 ('Monstrous',
> which perhaps originates from H=C3=B6lderlin's translation). For example:
> =E2=80=98Ungeheuer ist viel. Doch nichts / Ungeheuerer als der Mensch=E2=
=80=99. (H=C3=B6lderlin)
> // =E2=80=98Monstrous, a lot. But nothing / More monstrous than man=E2=80=
=99. (H=C3=B6lderlin,
> trans. David Constantine) // =E2=80=98There is much that is monstrous.  B=
ut nothing
> / More monstrous than man=E2=80=99. (Brecht, based on Holderlin, trans. J=
udith
> Malina) // =E2=80=98Zahlreich ist das Ungeheure, doch nichts / ungeheurer=
 als der
> Mensch=E2=80=99 (Kurt Steinmann, Reclam XL) // =E2=80=98Vieles Gewalt=E2=
=80=99ge lebt, und nichts /
> Ist gewaltiger als der Mensch=E2=80=99. (August Boskh)
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>
>
> My questions are:
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> Do German translations exist that interpret this in term of =E2=80=98Wond=
er=E2=80=99?
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> If so, which translations? Perhaps the =E2=80=98monstrous=E2=80=99 tradit=
ion follows
> H=C3=B6lderlin, but there is also another parallel lineage?
>
> Presumably Sophocles=E2=80=99 original Greek is ambiguous =E2=80=93 which=
 words in
> particular?
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> Does this ambiguity surface across other languages in a similar way?
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>
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> Of course, =E2=80=98Wonder=E2=80=99 and =E2=80=98Monstrous=E2=80=99 are c=
losely related (different aspects
> of awe or astonishment) yet also opposite.
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> I assume I=E2=80=99m describing something that has previously been observ=
ed by
> serious Antigone scholars=E2=80=94but I've searched high and low without
> discovering comment on this.  If anyone could offer pointers to relevant
> articles, or answer directly, I would be very grateful!
>
>
>
> Thank you
>
>
>
> Patrick
>