Re: Sophocles Antigone - Question re English/German translations

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Steven

> On Dec 9, 2019, at 6:45 AM, Patrick Ozzard-Low <[email protected]> wro=
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> Hi Patrick,
> Thanks very much - appreciated!
> With that I may be able to track down my main quarry: German translations
> that take a different path to Holderlin.
> Wondrous dreadful dinosaurs. Cool. So that's the true origin of so much
> philospical wonder... :-)
> Patrick
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> On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 2:10 PM Patrick Rourke <[email protected]> wro=
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>> For instance, this article
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>> talks
>> about the relationship between the Sophocles phrase and the line of
>> Aeschylus that Jebb compares it to.
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>> On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 9:07 AM Patrick Rourke <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
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>>> The words are polla ta deina in Greek - "many are the wonders/terrors";
>>> Jebb in his abridged commentary [
>> https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Flccn=
.loc.gov%2F03031510&amp;data=3D02%7C01%7Cclassics-l%40lsv.uky.edu%7Cbeeaa81=
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>> (note on
>>> line 332) translates it as "wonder," but notes a line in Aeschylus's
>>> Choephoroi where it would be translated "dread." It is the same word fr=
om
>>> which "dinosaur" was formed. There's a long literature about the ode, a=
nd
>>> that phrase, and a google search of "polla ta deina antigone" should ge=
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>>> you a foot in the door.
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>> --
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