Re: Sophocles Antigone - Question re English/German translations

Laval Hunsucker <[email protected]> Mon, 9 Dec 2019 17:46:59 +0100
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And see too in any case e.g. "awfully nice", "awfully pleasant", "awfully
commonplace", "awfully boring" . . . .

- Laval Hunsucker



On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 5:36 PM Steven Schuster <[email protected]=
>
wrote:

Very much a side track, but wouldn=E2=80=99t the word =E2=80=9Cawful=E2=80=
=9D have presented
> translation issues at some periods of its apparent transition of meaning?
>
> Steven
>
> > On Dec 9, 2019, at 6:45 AM, Patrick Ozzard-Low <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Patrick,
> > Thanks very much - appreciated!
> > With that I may be able to track down my main quarry: German translatio=
ns
> > that take a different path to Holderlin.
> > Wondrous dreadful dinosaurs. Cool. So that's the true origin of so much
> > philospical wonder... :-)
> > Patrick
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 2:10 PM Patrick Rourke <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> >> For instance, this article
> >>
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> >>
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> >
> >> talks
> >> about the relationship between the Sophocles phrase and the line of
> >> Aeschylus that Jebb compares it to.
> >>
> >> On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 9:07 AM Patrick Rourke <[email protected]>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> The words are polla ta deina in Greek - "many are the wonders/terrors=
";
> >>> Jebb in his abridged commentary [
> >>
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> ]
> >> (note on
> >>> line 332) translates it as "wonder," but notes a line in Aeschylus's
> >>> Choephoroi where it would be translated "dread." It is the same word
> from
> >>> which "dinosaur" was formed. There's a long literature about the ode,
> and
> >>> that phrase, and a google search of "polla ta deina antigone" should
> get
> >>> you a foot in the door.
> >>>
> >>> Patrick Rourke
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Patrick Rourke
> >> ptrourke [(at)] methymna.com
> >>
>