Re: Sophocles Antigone - Question re English/German translations
Laval Hunsucker <[email protected]> Mon, 9 Dec 2019 17:46:59 +0100
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And see too in any case e.g. "awfully nice", "awfully pleasant", "awfully commonplace", "awfully boring" . . . . - Laval Hunsucker On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 5:36 PM Steven Schuster <[email protected]= > wrote: Very much a side track, but wouldn=E2=80=99t the word =E2=80=9Cawful=E2=80= =9D have presented > translation issues at some periods of its apparent transition of meaning? > > Steven > > > On Dec 9, 2019, at 6:45 AM, Patrick Ozzard-Low <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > Hi Patrick, > > Thanks very much - appreciated! > > With that I may be able to track down my main quarry: German translatio= ns > > that take a different path to Holderlin. > > Wondrous dreadful dinosaurs. Cool. So that's the true origin of so much > > philospical wonder... :-) > > Patrick > > > > > > On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 2:10 PM Patrick Rourke <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > >> For instance, this article > >> > https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.j= stor.org%2Fstable%2F4349759&data=3D02%7C01%7CCLASSICS-L%40lsv.uky.edu%7= Ccc8a5287328040ada8a208d77cc76c66%7C2b30530b69b64457b818481cb53d42ae%7C0%7C= 0%7C637115068269272161&sdata=3DQjlHNZi9VW7CNRvrMpHLhQHbfisqkZC9p0cV5i5r= GoQ%3D&reserved=3D0 > >> < > >> > https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.j= stor.org%2Fstable%2F4349759%3Fseq%3D1%23metadata_info_tab_contents&data= =3D02%7C01%7CCLASSICS-L%40lsv.uky.edu%7Ccc8a5287328040ada8a208d77cc76c66%7C= 2b30530b69b64457b818481cb53d42ae%7C0%7C0%7C637115068269282151&sdata=3DM= 7rJXb7FDAPetmFFqI8FhCCoU%2BlW5hK%2FsWt%2FD%2BlUAuA%3D&reserved=3D0 > > > >> talks > >> about the relationship between the Sophocles phrase and the line of > >> Aeschylus that Jebb compares it to. > >> > >> On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 9:07 AM Patrick Rourke <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> The words are polla ta deina in Greek - "many are the wonders/terrors= "; > >>> Jebb in his abridged commentary [ > >> > https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Flccn.= loc.gov%2F03031510&data=3D02%7C01%7CCLASSICS-L%40lsv.uky.edu%7Ccc8a5287= 328040ada8a208d77cc76c66%7C2b30530b69b64457b818481cb53d42ae%7C0%7C0%7C63711= 5068269282151&sdata=3DDTM3Oi61S0vuAuKxS50m%2F2JMzXO5j0wVTgxyuuLulU4%3D&= amp;reserved=3D0 > ] > >> (note on > >>> line 332) translates it as "wonder," but notes a line in Aeschylus's > >>> Choephoroi where it would be translated "dread." It is the same word > from > >>> which "dinosaur" was formed. There's a long literature about the ode, > and > >>> that phrase, and a google search of "polla ta deina antigone" should > get > >>> you a foot in the door. > >>> > >>> Patrick Rourke > >>> > >>> > >> > >> -- > >> Patrick Rourke > >> ptrourke [(at)] methymna.com > >> >