Re: Labels for all (was: Re: [ToonTalk] Appearance of flipped pictures in ToonTalk)

"Ken Kahn" <[email protected]> Fri, 14 Nov 2003 14:41:26 +0100
Newsgroups gmane.education.weblabs.requests
Message-ID <053f01c3aab5$040932a0$6901a8c0@LAP68>
Yishay wrote:


> I like the "handle icon" idea, and I like the idea of being able to
> label everything. First, the more things behave alike, the easier it
is
> to learn ToonTalk (IMHO). We had long discussions about being able to
> flip all things in tt some time ago, and this seams to be supported by
> the same rationale.
>

Yes it would be good to be able to flip anything, but it is just a fair
amount of work.

By the way, back in 1995 ToonTalk didn't allow you to put bombs or
robots in boxes (for different reasons) and the first group of beta
testers (10 year olds) found this very strange and complained. On the
other hand I've never heard a kid suggest that you should be able to
flip over boxes or label bombs. So these enhancements are good ideas but
maybe not high priority.

And have any of you ever wanted to put Dusty in the hole of a box?
Uniformity isn't always best.

>
> Question:
> I can see how you label a bomb or a picture, but how would you label a
> box? point and type labels a particular hole. Maybe point and type at
> the upper left corner will place the label there? This would be in
line
> with the "my box" label you get in a robot's thought bubble.
>

Well you could either point to the top (as Yishay suggested) or pick up
the box and begin typing. Both seems reasonable.

By the way, I recently implemented an experimental feature: typing '.'
to a box turns it off (and everything inside) and typing space turns it
back on. If you take a box from the back of a turned off a picture then
it is off so it is nice to be able to turn it on like this. And if the
box has many sensors it is nice to be able to freeze them all at once.
But then the problem that text pads have regarding typing '.' vs.
turning off the text pad arise. How to include a period in the label of
a box? Maybe '.' only turns off boxes if you are holding them.

Best,

-ken



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