RE: [Webreports-uedesign] Re: Webreports technical implementation subgroup

"raquel.palermo" <[email protected]> Mon, 22 Sep 2003 16:58:06 +0100
Newsgroups gmane.education.weblabs.webreports.devel,gmane.education.weblabs.webreports.uedesign
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Hi
 
I really like the ideia of 3 or 4 levels of editing, lists... 
 
I collected some data in the portuguese meeting, but i am still waiting to speak to all the teachers. I'll have a meeting next week and, then, make a list with all the suggestions made. 
 
In the meanwhile, one of the questions was if it is possible to allow the kids to choose a name when saving the documents from TT to the computer or (in the future) to the webreport, because it's toonktalk who saves with the name it choses and some times it's hard time for the finds to find one among several.
 
I would like to create a personal page in wiki. How can i do that?
 
For Yishay: The portuguese wiki may be put together this week. Ricardo is working on that.
 
Regards
 
Raquel

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	De: webreports-uedesign-admin-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org em nome de Yishay Mor 
	Enviada: seg 9/22/2003 12:00 PM 
	Para: Jakob Tholander 
	Cc: webreports-developers-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org; webreports-uedesign-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org 
	Assunto: [Webreports-uedesign] Re: Webreports technical implementation subgroup
	
	

	I absolutely agree. (both with the content, and with the classification,
	which is why I added the design group to the addressies)
	
	On our 1st attempt at having kids write a report we used MS word.  Kids
	spent most of the time selecting background colours, fonts, etc. Not
	that styling and personalization is not important, but it should go only
	so far as it is not counter-productive.  I don't know where that point
	is, but IMHO the basic wikimarkup options are more or less what we
	want.  If we had a WYSIWYG editor, it should only go as far as that.
	i.e., 3-4 levels of headings, lists, links tables and embedding media.
	
	- Yishay
	
	Jakob Tholander wrote:
	
	> Actually I think that a WISYWIG editor could have the same effects as
	> a script-like editing, i.e. spending too much time on the actual
	> editing (how to  make their reports look nice) rather than supporting
	> the kids in thinking about the content of what they are reporting.
	> What I believe the kids will need is some kind of structured support
	> (in the form of dialogues or templates) for creating their reports
	> and  we really should draw on the quite extensive CSCL research from
	> CSILE/Knowledge Forum people on this kind of scaffolding.
	>
	> Of course this is primarily an issue for the "design group" but I will
	> definitely not be able to stay out of the discussion ;-)
	>
	> Regards
	>
	> Jakob
	>
	>
	> At 15:48 2003-09-17 +0100, you wrote:
	>
	>> What R & C wanted was a WYSIWYG editor, which could be overlaid on
	>> top of the Wiki.  I think it was agreed that anything other than
	>> developing on top of JSPWiki would be too resource demanding.  You'd
	>> have to build all the engines from scratch, which are 10 times more
	>> complicated than the interface.
	>
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