Re: How large is the difference between the SF cedet and Emacs cedet (melpa)?

Vladimir Nikishkin <[email protected]> Thu, 16 Jan 2020 11:35:13 +0800
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By the way, ede's default keybinding prefix C-c .
conflicts with org-mode's org-time-stamp command binding.

It's it really the best keybinding prefix?

Vladimir Nikishkin <[email protected]> =E6=96=BC 2020=E5=B9=B41=E6=9C=881=
6=E6=97=A5 =E9=80=B1=E5=9B=9B 11:15 =E5=AF=AB=E9=81=93=EF=BC=9A

> Well, I'm sort of trying to use the sf version now, and it's actually
> working with scheme files better than the built-in one (due to the last
> scheme-related commit?). (In the sense that it doesn't throw exceptions.)
> It can't do a lot more though.
>
> Which tools are still not there?
> The grammars-fw manual and cogre at least...
>
>
> Eric Ludlam <[email protected]> =E6=96=BC 2020=E5=B9=B41=E6=9C=8816=
=E6=97=A5 =E9=80=B1=E5=9B=9B 10:47 =E5=AF=AB=E9=81=93=EF=BC=9A
>
>> Hi Vladimir,
>>
>> Mainline Emacs version of CEDET has moved past CEDET on sourceforge due
>> to major changes to eieio.  At this point it is not possible to use SF
>> version with newer Emacsen.
>>
>> I have been posting minor patches to Emacs for missing features from SF
>> version, but it is slow going as I have limited time, and I don't have a
>> continous release from my company.  Eventually I'd like to move some of
>> the tools not in Emacs into melpa after updating them to work with newer
>> Emacs, but it will be a while without help.
>>
>> Eric
>>
>> On 1/12/20 1:11 AM, Vladimir Nikishkin wrote:
>> > I am reading the built-in Emacs CEDET manuals, and they are apparently
>> > refencing some CEDET features that are not within a standard Emacs
>> > installation. (For example, cogre is not there. Also the manual
>> > references the grammar-fw info node, which is also not present.)
>> > How large is the difference? Is it worth installing a git version of
>> > cedet for everyday usage (not for development)?
>> >
>> > You know, org-mode is also generally divergent from the main Emacs
>> > tree, but they maintain a separate MELPA repository, which allows to
>> > have a "semi-fresh" org installation without interfering with Emacs
>> > proper.  Maybe it is worth making a melpa repository with the latest
>> > CEDET?
>> >
>>
>

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<div dir=3D"auto">By the way, ede&#39;s default keybinding prefix C-c .=C2=
=A0<div dir=3D"auto">conflicts with org-mode&#39;s org-time-stamp command b=
inding.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">It&#39;s it real=
ly the best keybinding prefix?</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">Vladimir Nikishkin &lt;<a href=3D"mailt=
o:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>&gt; =E6=96=BC 2020=E5=B9=B41=
=E6=9C=8816=E6=97=A5 =E9=80=B1=E5=9B=9B 11:15 =E5=AF=AB=E9=81=93=EF=BC=9A<b=
r></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border=
-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto"><div>Well, I&#39;m=
 sort of trying to use the sf version now, and it&#39;s actually working wi=
th scheme files better than the built-in one (due to the last scheme-relate=
d commit?). (In the sense that it doesn&#39;t throw exceptions.) It can&#39=
;t do a lot more though.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"=
>Which tools are still not there?</div><div dir=3D"auto">The grammars-fw ma=
nual and cogre at least...</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br><br><div class=3D"gma=
il_quote" dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">Eric Ludlam &l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"norefer=
rer">[email protected]</a>&gt; =E6=96=BC 2020=E5=B9=B41=E6=9C=8816=E6=
=97=A5 =E9=80=B1=E5=9B=9B 10:47 =E5=AF=AB=E9=81=93=EF=BC=9A<br></div><block=
quote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc=
 solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi Vladimir,<br>
<br>
Mainline Emacs version of CEDET has moved past CEDET on sourceforge due <br=
>
to major changes to eieio.=C2=A0 At this point it is not possible to use SF=
 <br>
version with newer Emacsen.<br>
<br>
I have been posting minor patches to Emacs for missing features from SF <br=
>
version, but it is slow going as I have limited time, and I don&#39;t have =
a <br>
continous release from my company.=C2=A0 Eventually I&#39;d like to move so=
me of <br>
the tools not in Emacs into melpa after updating them to work with newer <b=
r>
Emacs, but it will be a while without help.<br>
<br>
Eric<br>
<br>
On 1/12/20 1:11 AM, Vladimir Nikishkin wrote:<br>
&gt; I am reading the built-in Emacs CEDET manuals, and they are apparently=
<br>
&gt; refencing some CEDET features that are not within a standard Emacs<br>
&gt; installation. (For example, cogre is not there. Also the manual<br>
&gt; references the grammar-fw info node, which is also not present.)<br>
&gt; How large is the difference? Is it worth installing a git version of<b=
r>
&gt; cedet for everyday usage (not for development)?<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; You know, org-mode is also generally divergent from the main Emacs<br>
&gt; tree, but they maintain a separate MELPA repository, which allows to<b=
r>
&gt; have a &quot;semi-fresh&quot; org installation without interfering wit=
h Emacs<br>
&gt; proper.=C2=A0 Maybe it is worth making a melpa repository with the lat=
est<br>
&gt; CEDET?<br>
&gt; <br>
</blockquote></div></div></div>
</blockquote></div>

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