Re: [NonGNU ELPA] New package: project-store

Lin Jian <[email protected]> writes:

> Philip Kaludercic <[email protected]> writes:
>
>> You appear to be a person of firm convictions, so I will not waste your
>> time anymore.
>
> I love to make informed decisions.  It happens to be that I have already
> considered some of your suggestions but decided to do things differently
> before I sent my first email here.
>
> Your comments are helpful and I really appreciate them.

(Thank you for clarifying this, it is not always the case when people
submit packages people.)

>> I've just pushed the package specification to nongnu.git
>> and the package should appear in the coming hours.
>
> Since I get a lot of HTTP 502 from cgit[1] of NonGNU ELPA repo, I choose
> to check it by cloning the repo with:
>
>   git clone --single-branch git://git.git.savannah.gnu.org/emacs/nongnu.git
>
> The latest commit is the one adding codex-ide and hermes.  Also, I do not
> see project-store in the repo.  Is something wrong?

Ah, something must have gone wrong yesterday as I was trying to push the
package (I was experiencing some networking issues yesterday, it is
likely that might have interrupted the "git push")

>> (Out of curiosity, what other projects are using a Nix store-model and
>> calling it that?)
>
> Nix can be seen as two parts:
>
> - The first part generates derivations (.drv files) from something
>   higher-level.
> - The second part builds derivations into store objects.
>
> There are some projects inspired by Nix.  For the first part, some of
> them compile Nix language into derivations; others compiles other
> languages into derivations, such as Guile for Guix, Typescript for Garn
> (there is a talk about it in NixCon2025) and Janet for Hermes[2].
> Except for Hermes, they seem to keep their implementations of the second
> part compliant with Nix's.
>
> There are also projects that are more different, such as Tangram and
> Brioche.
>
> I am not familiar with all of them so take my words with a grain of salt.
>
> I use "the store module" to refer to data model and
> operations/interfaces of the store layer.  Guix seems to just call it
> "the store"[3].
>
> I highly recommend the "Learning the Nix Store Layer" talk of NixCon2022
> if you are interested in the second part.  The speaker thinks the store
> model as a "narrow waist" in Nix ecosystems, just like TCP/IP in the
> network layer.

Thank you for the references, I'll look into them when I find the time.

> [1]: https://cgit.git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs/nongnu.git
> [2]: https://github.com/andrewchambers/hermes
> [3]: https://guix.gnu.org/manual/devel/en/guix.html#The-Store