Re: [NonGNU ELPA] New package: project-store

Lin Jian <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.emacs.devel
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Philip Kaludercic <[email protected]> writes:

> If we want to
> continue this discussion, we ought to do so on emacs-tangents.

I am not quite sure what discussion you mean and why.

>> IMHO, project-store, together with its brief description, is very clear.
>
> This is ultimately the reason why we don't want to insist on maintainers
> changing the names of their packages if they have strong opinions to the
> contrary.
>

Good to know.

> But still: I asked a few friends who use Nix about what their
> association with the word "store" is an if they would think of "Nix",
> and nobody said they think it is intuitive.  Generally, "project-store"
> seems to either be interpreted as "project-shop" (noun) or
> "project-save" (verb).  I think the argument with Guix is also not that
> strong, since the compatibility with Guix is coincidental, rather than
> inherent.  It is really project support for "Nix stores" or anything
> that behaves similarly.
>
> A name is part of the public advertisement of a package, and (some of
> us) appreciate having a name have a standalone meaning -- without the
> help of a description.  While usually the issue is with project names
> being too quirky, the other direction is also tricky.  I have witnessed
> this myself with my "setup" package, where people have complained
> numerous times that it is too generic, but that is also not the same
> name as with your package, if we are being fair.
>
> This is not to say that we have to change the name, but just to argue
> the point that it doesn't seem like a _good_ name.

This, your previous arguments for project-nix-store and Nix users I
asked make me prefer project-nix-store over project-store now.  Together
with the renaming, I will modify the brief description to "Project
backend for Nix-like store" to suggest that it supports more than just
Nix store.

If it is not too late, I am fine with renaming it from project-store to
project-nix-store.  Sorry for the extra work.

If it is too late, I am also fine with the current name.
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