Re: Rising Sun Now On Preorder

Counter's - have plenty 



Rules - larger font not needed 



GT - have already,  works well 



Scenarios - up graded???  I most likely have the OOP one's already. 



Maps - SK hasn't been worth buying new boards, at least IMHO, have doubles of most already. 



Guess it's mainly that I can remember when the whole idea of the ASL RB was sold on the fact 

that it was loose leaf so could be update as needed.  Also remember some EM exchanges I 

had way back when, with Curt said  that nothing was changing with MMP taking over. 



So I have all the parts already, just the updated rules as a separate package would be nice 

and worth the money - especially since that was the idea behind the binder.  One of the learning 

points from the SL days - which I actually have all the mods for as well, even in the purple box.  :-) 



Being in retail management I have a good idea how things work, admittedly at a much larger scale 

than MMP operates at.  So I would think it would be workable - however the margin would be 

smaller than going the full package route. 



Hence my remark on the comment on the merchandising tech.. 


Obama - America's Nero :-( 
----- Original Message -----
From: "Wynn Polnicky" <[email protected]> 
To: "ASL Discussion List" <[email protected]> 
Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2013 4:03:32 PM 
Subject: Re: [Aslml] Rising Sun Now On Preorder 

Counters - upgraded (larger font). 

Rules - upgraded (larger font, errata incorporated). 

Gavutu-Tanambogo - upgraded (paper map, no overlays no longer needed). 

Scenarios - upgraded, some formerly OOP included. 

Maps upgraded (to SK style), 

So IMHO there's little wrong with MMP's 'merchandising technique', even 
disregarding the argument that Chas made that it's just too difficult. 
Unless you only happen to be interested in a particular selection of the 
upgrades. There is nothing in RS that has not been released in some form. 

My copy ordered this AM, even though I have CoB and GH already, as well as 
the map bundle. 

Wynn 

-----Original Message----- 
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Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 12:49 PM 
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Subject: Re: [Aslml] Rising Sun Now On Preorder 



Hummm....  so we need to buy something we already have, in order to 

upgrade. 



Wow..... nice merchandising technique. 


Obama - America's Nero :-( 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chas Argent" <[email protected]> 
To: "ASL Discussion List" <[email protected]> 
Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2013 12:59:46 PM 
Subject: Re: [Aslml] Rising Sun Now On Preorder 

Selling "scaled-down" versions of a HASL isn't likely to happen. It's too 
big of a headache for the office  for too small a return to have them deal 
with multiple versions. We also price and order components with a specific 
number of units in mind. Mixing and matching different quantities of 
components makes that impractical. 

~Chas 


On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 11:57 AM, Fred <[email protected]> wrote: 

> 
> On a similar note, having recently punched my FB I would like to suggest 
> that when you release Ponyri and the 3rd Stalingrad historical games with 
> a 
> pre-release only option that is a stripped down version that doesn't 
> include 2 new sheets of Russians and 2 new sheets of Germans that those of 
> us with all (or at least most) existing MMP games don't need. This 
> stripped 
> down version will require a little thought in laying out the counters so 
> that all of the extra duplicate counters are on the same sheets and the 
> few 
> new units are all on the same (different from the extra counters) sheets. 
> You might also include a few extra counters of some units types that a lot 
> of are needed. You would need to state that the stripped down version 
> assumes you own VotG and either RB or FB (or some other such assumption). 
> Such a stripped down version would sell for $4 less per "missing" counter 
> sheet. 
> 
> Fred 
> 
> 
> On 3/6/2013 8:15 AM, Chas Argent wrote: 
> 
>> David- 
>> 
>> No, they won't. We experimented with variations and pricing for some sort 
>> of "upgrade kit," but from a production (and financial) standpoint there 
>> was no logical place for the company to draw the line because everything 
>> has changed to some degree from the Avalon Hill versions of Code fo 
>> Bushido 
>> and Gung Ho! 
>> 
>> Regards, 
>> ~Chas 
>> 
>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 11:08 AM, David Elder < 
>> [email protected].**ca <[email protected]>> 
>> wrote: 
>> 
>>  Hi Keith, 
>>> 
>>> Just curious but will the revised rules chapters be available separately 
>>> for those of us who already own Code of Bushido and Gung Ho? Presumably 
>>> the 
>>> counters and other elements from the earlier games are still usable? 
>>> 
>>> Cheers, 
>>> 
>>> David 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 3/6/2013 10:52 AM, keith dalton wrote: 
>>> 
>>>  Listers: 
>>>> 
>>>> For those interested, Rising Sun is now on preorder here. 
>>>> 
>>>> http://www.multimanpublishing.****com/Products/tabid/58/** 
>>>> ProductID/228/Default.aspx<htt**p://www.multimanpublishing.** 
>>>> com/Products/tabid/58/**ProductID/228/Default.aspx<http://www.multimanpublishing.com/Products/tabid/58/ProductID/228/Default.aspx> 
>>>> > 
>>>> 
>>>> Regards, 
>>>> 
>>>> Keith 
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