Re: Rising Sun Now On Preorder

I won't be ordering RS for the very simple reason that I already have 
everything that's in it, and it all still works. None of my CoB and GH stuff 
is in any real need of an upgrade.

And do you know what? I'm perfectly OK with that, because RS isn't for me. 
It's for the guys coming into ASL who haven't been able to get CoB and GH 
for nearly a decade.

I don't understand this seeming compulsion to buy every single product MMP 
puts out even when you clearly don't need it. Are you also going to buy 2nd 
Ed. YANKS when it comes available? What on earth for?

Finally, wrt "merchandising techniques", MMP could have put something 
entirely new in RS that was only available by buying RS. They didn't. 
Frankly, if that's really how you think they operate, I think they're doing 
a pretty crappy job of it.

David

-----Original Message----- 
From: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 4:49 PM
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Subject: Re: [Aslml] Rising Sun Now On Preorder



Hummm....  so we need to buy something we already have, in order to

upgrade.



Wow..... nice merchandising technique.


Obama - America's Nero :-(
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chas Argent" <[email protected]>
To: "ASL Discussion List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2013 12:59:46 PM
Subject: Re: [Aslml] Rising Sun Now On Preorder

Selling "scaled-down" versions of a HASL isn't likely to happen. It's too
big of a headache for the office  for too small a return to have them deal
with multiple versions. We also price and order components with a specific
number of units in mind. Mixing and matching different quantities of
components makes that impractical.

~Chas


On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 11:57 AM, Fred <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> On a similar note, having recently punched my FB I would like to suggest
> that when you release Ponyri and the 3rd Stalingrad historical games with 
> a
> pre-release only option that is a stripped down version that doesn't
> include 2 new sheets of Russians and 2 new sheets of Germans that those of
> us with all (or at least most) existing MMP games don't need. This 
> stripped
> down version will require a little thought in laying out the counters so
> that all of the extra duplicate counters are on the same sheets and the 
> few
> new units are all on the same (different from the extra counters) sheets.
> You might also include a few extra counters of some units types that a lot
> of are needed. You would need to state that the stripped down version
> assumes you own VotG and either RB or FB (or some other such assumption).
> Such a stripped down version would sell for $4 less per "missing" counter
> sheet.
>
> Fred
>
>
> On 3/6/2013 8:15 AM, Chas Argent wrote:
>
>> David-
>>
>> No, they won't. We experimented with variations and pricing for some sort
>> of "upgrade kit," but from a production (and financial) standpoint there
>> was no logical place for the company to draw the line because everything
>> has changed to some degree from the Avalon Hill versions of Code fo
>> Bushido
>> and Gung Ho!
>>
>> Regards,
>> ~Chas
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 11:08 AM, David Elder <
>> [email protected]**ca <david-tJaOsOnekaxy6FVk5UMYRG+DJq1SqhBbsOSz5zK2v9k@public.gmane.org>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>  Hi Keith,
>>>
>>> Just curious but will the revised rules chapters be available separately
>>> for those of us who already own Code of Bushido and Gung Ho? Presumably
>>> the
>>> counters and other elements from the earlier games are still usable?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/6/2013 10:52 AM, keith dalton wrote:
>>>
>>>  Listers:
>>>>
>>>> For those interested, Rising Sun is now on preorder here.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.multimanpublishing.****com/Products/tabid/58/**
>>>> ProductID/228/Default.aspx<htt**p://www.multimanpublishing.**
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>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Keith
>>>> MMP
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