Re: Uno

Richard Hills <[email protected]>
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Brian Meadows:

[snip]

Opposite him, even though
this sequence wasn't in our agreements, I would be almost certain that
what he held was a weak 2H plus a long diamond suit but not good
enough a hand to promote it to 1 of a major.

void
KJ10xxx
J109xxx
x

would seem about right.

At adverse, my rebid is easy, 3H with no alternatives. It would be 4H
were the vulnerabilities reversed.

[snip]

The only way I can imagine partner having diamonds and no majors is if
2D was an unnoticed bidding box mispull for 3D.

Richard Hills:

Good judgement by Brian. The actual East reasoned as Brian did, and signed
off in 3H. Alas, West held:

3
AJT
AJ8653
A84

having made an unnoticed bidding box mispull of 2D replacing West's
intended opening bid of 1D. Hence East-West scored -600 in an unusual way.

The question of Law is this: The WBF Laws Committee has ruled that an Alert
/ explanation from partner is authorised information for the purpose of a
Law 25A correction "without pause for thought". But West, like many
players, was unaware of his rights under Law 25A. Therefore once East bid
2H West could no longer correct his 2D opening bid. Thus presumably at the
moment East bid 2H East's earlier Alert and explanation transmogrified into
being UI to West.

Hence was West's 3D an illegal call? Was West required to assume that the
auction had proceeded 1D - pass - 2H (very weak with six hearts)? Or does
Law 16A1(a) mean that West is entitled to know, by whatever means, that
West opened the bidding with 2D? (Possibly relevant here is the "aids to
his memory" Law 40C3(a).)

Best wishes,

Richard Hills

On Friday, May 13, 2016, brian <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Thu, 12 May 2016 23:34:15 +1000, Richard Hills wrote:
>
> >Imps, Dlr: West, Vul: East-West
> >
> >You, East, hold:
> >
> >K842
> >Q6
> >2
> >J97532
> >
> >The bidding has gone:
> >
> >2D (Alerted and explained as a weak two in hearts, or a weak two in
> spades,
> >or 21-22 balanced) - pass - 2H (pass or correct) - pass - 3D
> (non-systemic)
> >- pass - ???
> >
> >What call do you make?
> >What other call(s) do you consider making?
> >
>
> I don't think you've given us enough information, Richard. If 2D is
> being used as a multi, then what are 2H and 2S being used for? In
> particular, does the system include some sort of weak two-suited bids
> such as Muiderberg or CRO Twos?
>
> I had one partner with whom I played a 2D Multi of this sort, but we
> weren't using 2H and 2S as weak two suiters. Opposite him, even though
> this sequence wasn't in our agreements, I would be almost certain that
> what he held was a weak 2H plus a long diamond suit but not good
> enough a hand to promote it to 1 of a major.
>
> void
> KJ10xxx
> J109xxx
> x
>
> would seem about right.
>
> At adverse, my rebid is easy, 3H with no alternatives. It would be 4H
> were the vulnerabilities reversed.
>
> I am definitely NOT going to pass 3D, but that's because I learned my
> bridge under a jurisdiction where 2D showing a weak 2 in a major or
> 21-22 balanced OR a weak 2 in diamonds would be an unlicensed
> convention, and if partner should show with a weak 2D without a major
> then I don't expect to come out of it without penalties.
>
> The only way I can imagine partner having diamonds and no majors is if
> 2D was an unnoticed bidding box mispull for 3D.
>
>
> Brian.
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