Re: OLOOT, asked first

"Robert Frick" <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.games.bridge.laws
Message-ID <op.yiyce9nmbd67ou@december2014>
This law has no deadline for when the OLOOT can be retracted. Did you want to construct one? Not one hour after the game, right?

Really, no deadline. Is anyone going to blindly follow this law where it leads? I don't think so.

Really, construct a deadline.

The question then is how far you will follow the law. The lawmakers probably didn't think about declarer putting down hand as dummy. Assuming no intentional lawbreaking, the only remotely equitable deadline is before declarer puts down his hand. And that probably matches the lawmakers' intentions.

There are other places in the laws where rights change after director is called (or probably an irregularity is noted.) Such as whether a player can make or retract a call over a mispull.

The support in BLML for making declarer pick up his cards and remain declarer has assumed that declarer is trying to cheat and yet contradictorily that defenders are impeccably ethical. That's illogical.



On Wed, 08 Jun 2016 21:14:14 -0400, David Grabiner <[email protected]> wrote:

> Law 47E1:
>
> A lead out of turn (or play of a card) may be retracted without further
> rectification if the player was mistakenly informed by an opponent that it was
> his turn to lead or play. A lead or play may not be accepted by his LHO in this
> circumstance.
>
> Therefore, assuming the wrong answer came from declarer or dummy, declarer
> cannot accept this lead by spreading his hand. Declarer picks up his hand, the
> correct defender leads, and the defenders can play double-dummy.
>
> David
>
> On 6/8/2016 8:46 PM, Robert Frick wrote:
>
> I know we talked about it, but was it just hypothetical? Today I got this. Defender asked who was declarer, got a wrong answer, led out of turn, declarer put his hand down as dummy, then the irregularity was noticed and I was called.
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