Re: Equity - some questions

Am 31.07.2016 um 17:09 schrieb Matthias Berghaus:
> Am 31.07.2016 um 16:21 schrieb Jeff Easterson:
>> A pairs tournament; movement Howell.  Each pair has a guide card on
>> which is clearly shown at which table they are to play each round and
>> which boards are to be played.
>>
>> During the match at one table the wrong boards are taken and it is only
>> discovered after (at least) one board has been played.  There is no
>> stationary pair at the table.
>>
>> Question 1:  do you agree that both pairs are equally responsible for
>> the mistake, for playing a wrong board?
> Sure, no question about that.
>
>> Question 2: if you do agree then do you agree that both pairs should
>> have the same, or equal sanctions (penalty, etc.)?
> Yep.
>
>> One pair had already played the boards; the other had not and was
>> scheduled to play the set later.
>> The TD could give each pair an equivalent procedural penalty for playing
>> the wrong boards but it should be the same for each pair.
>> Question 3: do you agree?
> Again, yes.
>
>> Regardless of such a possible penalty the pair that had already played
>> the boards is not affected.  Their result from the earlier play of the
>> boards is valid.
> Sure, but typically they miss out on complementing the boards they
> _should_ have played.... If they manage to play the boards, fine.
Yes, they did manage to play the correct boards.
>
>> The pair that later is scheduled to play the boards will not be able to
>> play the board/boards it has already seen.  It will be given a score of
>> 40% on this/these board/boards.
>> Question 4: do you agree?
> See above, but yes.
>
>> Thus one pair will be "penalised" (at least have an unfavourable
>> adjusted score9 and the other will not.  Thus they will not be treated
>> equally.
> This I find doubtful, see above. If they find out very early this may be
> so, but in my experience this is detected either very early (another
> pair looking for those boards), or when the score is entered, sometimes
> even later, so this pair is about to get AV- for the boards they did not
> play, which usually evens out. The rest is sheer luck.
>
>> Question 5: do you agree?
>>
>> Question 6: if you do agree with this is it not a violation of the
>> principle of equal sanctioning of both pairs?
>>
>> Ciao,  JE
>>
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