Re: How careless is careless?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
> Behalf Of Steve Willner
> Sent: Saturday, 30 September 2017 7:42 AM
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> Subject: Re: [BLML] How careless is careless?
> 
> On 9/29/2017 5:15 PM, David Grabiner wrote:
> > From your facts, it appears that East knows that West has good
spades,
> > and that the club may not be good (because dummy has a higher club,
> or
> > declarer is likely to have one).
> 
> I agree that the ruling depends on the cards East can see and on the
> play up to that point.
> 
> >  If that is the case, leading a club is
> > irrational (if you use the claim rule) and not a logical alternative
(if
> > you use the UI rule), and the defense gets the last two tricks.
> 
> I don't see any UI.  The relevant Law seems to be 70A in general and
> 70D2 in particular, i.e., is a club from East "normal" or "irrational"
> based on East's information and state of mind.  The OP said "E ... was
> always going to lead partner[']s set up suit," which suggests a club
> would have been irrational in the circumstances.  If that is not a
> "doubtful point (L70A)," then the claim should be allowed.
> 
> I am thinking about a PP to West, probably a warning, but I'm not sure
> whether one is appropriate or not.  

Thanks for your input, all, UI has certainly been given, and a 5 minute
sarcasm warning was delivered to West.  You or I would have 
folded cards as declarer and got onto the next disaster, but
these two pairs had a history of aggro, so was necessary to be
punctilious in my ruling, instead of "stop wasting my time".

I was hurt when declarer declared I was wrong, as that has
happened twice already this year.

Cheers,

Tony (Sydney)
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Claiming is entirely proper, but
> here West has claimed at a time that makes it impossible for him to
> follow L68C, so you could argue it's a violation of procedure.
Despite
> that, West may have thought East had only spades left.  I think I
> wouldn't give a PP unless West often does this sort of thing, but I'd
> warn him that the ruling could well have gone against him, and that
it's
> better to let East play before claiming.
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