Re: subject now becoming clearer

Even if your example doesn't work, you have asked a good question that deserves answering. One issue is that any poll might not yield the correct answer. Here, the chances of a spade lead working, if dummy has four spades, is faily small, so I too am suspicious of how the question was asked.

But in general, I determine LA's via a poll. It's a standardized procedure, and when I am done I am done.

But I don't think this poll addressed "extremely serious error". If in fact almost everyone is playing a hand one way, that suggests that other lines of play are inferior. But that could be "normal error", not "extremely serious error".


On Sun, 29 Oct 2017 15:44:26 -0400, Herman De Wael <[email protected]> wrote:

> I posted this week:
>
> They are vulnerable, you're in second seat, after the bidding:
>
> decl	you	dummy	part
> 2Cl	Pass	2Sp	Pass	2Cl=strong  2Sp=relay
> 3He	Pass	3Sp	Pass	natural
> 3NT	All Pass
>
> And you have to lead from:
>
> Sp K Q 9 7 5 2
> He Q J 10 8
> Di 9
> Cl 6 3
>
> Your lead?
>
> There have been many different leads (I believe all four suits have been
> suggested)
>
> Now I'll tell you what happened:
>
> 3Sp was intended, by Dummy, as a second relay. He has only two spades.
> Offending side told the TD that this was a misbid, and it should have
> been natural - so East was not misinformed.
> However, the TD ruled that this was not proven and he ruled misinformation.
> But that's not the end of the ruling.
>
> It is clear that without the mention of natural spades in dummy, a spade
> lead is mandatory. In that case, the contract goes two down. That is
> what the TD ruled for the offending side.
>
> At the table, the lead was a club and declarer made 11 tricks.
>
> Now, the TD polled six players, like I did you, and received six answers
> of a spade lead even after the misinformation.
> I am not criticising this, different polls do lead to different results.
>
> Based on this poll the TD of the hand ruled serious error and left the
> score of -660 for the non offending side (leaving the final result of
> the match at 18-9 on the ancient scale).
>
> My question is the following:
> Is it enough for a poll to be unanimous in order to rule that the club
> lead was a serious error as indicated by the new laws?
>
> Herman.
>
> Herman.
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