Re: In between Law 23

"Jan Peach" <[email protected]> Sat, 11 Nov 2017 06:48:33 +1000
Newsgroups gmane.games.bridge.laws
Message-ID <3255269160F14E9C8C78FCC03DCABDBC@PeachPC>
I have never said that the rarity of the new option matters.
"Rarity" is not relevant to be "similar". Rare hands are fine, if they are similar.

I am saying that the new option - cannot be held - because of the point range. To be clear, I think 13+ and 14+ look similar enough perhaps even 12+ but getting a bit grey lower than that. Jxxxxxxxxx  x  x  x  is a powerful hand but it's not even close to 15+.

If there is a WBFLC clarification that "similar" includes added options that obviously could not be held or are ridiculous possibilities then, fine.

All I am saying is that “weak” is not similar to “strong”
and that
"much weaker than 15" is not similar to "15+"
and that therefore
the new option fails the test to be similar.

Jan


-----Original Message----- 
From: Steve Willner 
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2017 8:04 AM 
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [BLML] In between Law 23 

On 2017-11-09 4:05 PM, Jan Peach wrote:
> ...does not make the superset “15+ any distribution OR much weaker than 15 
> with 10 spades” similar to “15+”.

If you think an extremely rare possibility -- one that neither an 
opponent nor partner will ever allow for -- makes two bids dissimilar, 
then we just disagree.  My opinions are often minority views, but I 
don't think this one will be.

If the much weaker version could contain as few as six spades, a 
reasonably common hand type, then I'd agree the meanings are dissimilar.
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