Re: In between Law 23

Herman De Wael <[email protected]> Sat, 11 Nov 2017 07:57:13 +0100
Newsgroups gmane.games.bridge.laws
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Jan Peach wrote:
>
> Steve:
> Let A = 15+ any shape and B = weak with 10+ spades.  Obviously the _hand
> types_ A and B are very different.
>
> Jan:
> That is exactly my argument.
> A and B are very different.
> Therefore, they cannot be similar.
>

But it is not A and B that we are talking about!!

It is

"A" and "A or B".

If B is a very uncommon occurence, then these two CAN be similar.

OK?

Herman.

>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve Willner
> Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2017 2:43 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [BLML] In between Law 23
>
> On 2017-11-09 5:04 PM, I wrote:
>> If you think an extremely rare possibility -- one that neither an
>> opponent nor partner will ever allow for -- makes two bids dissimilar,
>> then we just disagree.
>
> A better way of explaining this occurred to me later.
>
> Let A = 15+ any shape and B = weak with 10+ spades.  Obviously the _hand
> types_ A and B are very different.  However, if you have a call in your
> system meaning "A or B" and another call meaning "A", those _calls_ are
> similar because hand type B is for practical purposes nonexistent.  That
> is, B is very close to an empty set.
>
> If you don't buy this, I can't think of anything else to say.
>
> On a related subject: it appears to me that adjusted scores under L23C
> can be weighted, and the weights can include actions that might have
> been indicated by a withdrawn call.  Do others agree?  This is an
> important difference from a UI adjustment.
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