Re: Law 25B1: Between 25A and 31

Gordon Rainsford <[email protected]> Thu, 13 Sep 2018 15:01:28 +0100
Newsgroups gmane.games.bridge.laws
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Why would you want to pretend something was a call out of turn when it
isn't? The terms of the original question told us that it was an intended
change of call.

On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 9:27 AM Sven Pran <[email protected]> wrote:

> Why not apply Law 31B1?
> West's changed bid of 3H is actually a call out of rotation at East's turn
> to call, this changed call stands and North is now in turn to call.
> North is free to bid 3S and East may then make any legal call.
> Law 16C2 now applies.
> (North do not have the option to refuse West's change of call!)
>
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> Emne: [Blml] Law 25B1: Between 25A and 31
>
> When does the right (25B1) to accept an intended change of call cease?
>
> The bidding
>
> W      N     E       S
> 2NT    P     3T(a)   P    (a) Puppet-Stayman
> 3NT*  p(1)                (*) Meant to show 5 hearts.
>
> Now West remembers that he has to bid 3H to show his hearts and replaces
> his
> bid. North wants to accept this change; he is wants to bid 3S.
>
>
> If 3NT had been unintended, we are in law 25A, 3S is an allowed bid.
> p(1) is cancelled and becomes UI to E/W.
> Especially we have 25A1, telling us that a replacement is allowed as long
> partner did not  bid, and we 25A6, telling us how to deal with
> p(1): it may be withdrawn.
>
>
> If 3H  is meant to be an intended bid that should be given in the next
> round,  we are in 31 (and 27). Again N is allowed to bid 3S, but this time
> p(1) is not cancelled and it is AI to E/W.
>
> But now we are somewhere between 25B1, 25B2 and 31.
> 31.C tells us, that a bid OOR shall be treated as a change of call,
> according to law 25 as long as LHO did not call.
>
> 25B1. is telling us, that a substition may be accepted; unfortunately it
> does not tell when this right is ceasing.
> Did North forfeit his right to accept a change of call, when he called
> p(1) over 3NT, throwing us do 25B2, or is acceptance according to 25B1
> still
> possible?
>
>
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