Re: Law 25B1: Between 25A and 31
Gordon Rainsford <[email protected]> Thu, 13 Sep 2018 15:01:28 +0100
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Why would you want to pretend something was a call out of turn when it isn't? The terms of the original question told us that it was an intended change of call. On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 9:27 AM Sven Pran <[email protected]> wrote: > Why not apply Law 31B1? > West's changed bid of 3H is actually a call out of rotation at East's turn > to call, this changed call stands and North is now in turn to call. > North is free to bid 3S and East may then make any legal call. > Law 16C2 now applies. > (North do not have the option to refuse West's change of call!) > > -----Opprinnelig melding----- > Fra: [email protected] <[email protected]> På vegne av Volker > Walther > Sendt: onsdag 12. september 2018 17.53 > Til: blml <[email protected]> > Emne: [Blml] Law 25B1: Between 25A and 31 > > When does the right (25B1) to accept an intended change of call cease? > > The bidding > > W N E S > 2NT P 3T(a) P (a) Puppet-Stayman > 3NT* p(1) (*) Meant to show 5 hearts. > > Now West remembers that he has to bid 3H to show his hearts and replaces > his > bid. North wants to accept this change; he is wants to bid 3S. > > > If 3NT had been unintended, we are in law 25A, 3S is an allowed bid. > p(1) is cancelled and becomes UI to E/W. > Especially we have 25A1, telling us that a replacement is allowed as long > partner did not bid, and we 25A6, telling us how to deal with > p(1): it may be withdrawn. > > > If 3H is meant to be an intended bid that should be given in the next > round, we are in 31 (and 27). Again N is allowed to bid 3S, but this time > p(1) is not cancelled and it is AI to E/W. > > But now we are somewhere between 25B1, 25B2 and 31. > 31.C tells us, that a bid OOR shall be treated as a change of call, > according to law 25 as long as LHO did not call. > > 25B1. is telling us, that a substition may be accepted; unfortunately it > does not tell when this right is ceasing. > Did North forfeit his right to accept a change of call, when he called > p(1) over 3NT, throwing us do 25B2, or is acceptance according to 25B1 > still > possible? > > > > > -- > Volker Walther > _______________________________________________ > Blml mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.rtflb.org/mailman/listinfo/blml > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > https://www.avg.com > > _______________________________________________ > Blml mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.rtflb.org/mailman/listinfo/blml > _______________________________________________ Blml mailing list [email protected] http://lists.rtflb.org/mailman/listinfo/blml