Re: Moderator Announcement: SWEng-GameDev on Facebook & Google Plus!
James Robertson <[email protected]> Thu, 12 Sep 2013 09:12:29 +0200
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This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============0389793342== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------010806020307080002070801" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010806020307080002070801 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yeah, I see this as fragmentation for little to no benefit. I do use Facebook (but less and less these days) and haven't bothered wit= h Google Plus. I certainly don't bother with groups on Facebook though s= imply because I have to actively go and log on to Facebook to see any act= ivity (and Facebook doesn't show me everything, just what it thinks is im= portant, which means I then have to go further and search for new topics = myself), whereas mailing list posts (all of them) come straight to my inb= ox. Anything which scrapes posts from Facebook or Google Plus would also have= to post responses back to them as well, because I certainly wont bother = following up on them. If discussions start appearing on Facebook or Google Plus, then that'll m= ore or less be the end of this mailing list (such as it is these days), a= nd another great resource will wither and die. On 12/09/2013 08:35, [email protected] wrote: > It's a pity that the community will now be fragmented. > > I guess we could easily figure out how to cross post across the differe= nt platforms, but any discussion off each of those posts would be limited= to the platforms they were done on. > > Perhaps the best solution would be to have a service that scrapes discu= ssions from fb and g+ and posts them to the mailing list as a digest? > > Kieran D'Archambaud > Lead Game Programmer > Sony Computer Entertainment Europe Limited > http://eu.playstation.com <http://eu.playstation.com/> > > > > > From: Davis Sickmon <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Date: 12/09/2013 07:29 > Subject: Re: [Sweng-Gamedev] Moderator Announcement: SWEng-GameDev on = Facebook & Google Plus! > Sent by: [email protected] > -----------------------------------------------------------------------= -------------------------------------------------------------------------= -------------------------------------------------------------------------= -------------------------------------------------------------------------= -------------------------------------------------------------------------= -------------------------------------------------------------------------= -------------------------------------------------------------------------= -------------------------------------------------------------------------= -------------------------------------------------------------------------= -------------------------------------------------------------------------= -------------------------------------------------------------------------= -------------------------------------------------------------------------= -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------------------------------------------- > > > > I went with creating both an FB and a G+ because I know some people who= hate FB, and I know some people who hate Google Plus. I'm active on both= , so, I wanted to make sure I could let people pick the social network th= ey hated the least ;-) > > Davis > > On Sep 12, 2013, at 1:24 AM, OvermindDL1 <[email protected]_ <mail= to:[email protected]>> wrote: > > I prefer mailing lists, but I will watch it close on G+ at least, never= touch Facebook. :-) > > On Sep 12, 2013 12:19 AM, "Davis Sickmon" <[email protected]_= <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > Ahh, mailing lists - almost a thing of the past. I say almost, as ther= e's still a number of them around, but the traffic levels slowly fall off= as they've lost out to forums and social media. > > Right now, SWEng-GameDev has 2099 members still, though the last postin= g on here was in March. It's not uncommon for this list to go a couple m= onths without traffic (see the list archives for examples of that), but i= t's gotten quiet enough I've finally decided to do something I've been wa= nting to do for a while: create a Facebook group and a Google Plus commu= nity to bring it into a slightly more modern platform. Just to be clear:= I'm not closing the list, just providing a new avenue for existing memb= ers to continue to enjoy the conversations as a part of other workflows := -) > > Same rules apply for the Facebook / Google Plus group as on here - no s= pam, no flaming, semi-on topic posts, no beginning programming posts, etc= =2E Basically, a semi-professional to professional discussion about soft= ware engineering. > > Both groups are closed groups to help keep down the number of spammers,= etc., and hopefully continue to have a good signal-to-noise ratio (I've = already ran into some Facebook game dev groups that have become useless d= ue to open join policies.) Just hit the group on your preferred social n= etwork (or both, if you're so inclined) and you'll be added within a day = or so! :-) > > So, the lists: > > Facebook - _https://www.facebook.com/groups/199062993608677/_ > > Google - _https://plus.google.com/communities/104167304358416136228_ > > I'll probably repeat this message twice more - one in two or three week= s, and one in two or three weeks after that on. Beyond that, I'll just b= e adding it to the subscription page. > > Hope to see you all on the new groups :-) > > Davis Ray Sickmon, Jr > Midnight Ryder Technologies > List Administrator for a freakin' decade - wow this list is old (and th= at's just how long it's been on my server! ;-) > > > _______________________________________________ > Sweng-Gamedev mailing list_ > [email protected]_ <mailto:[email protected]= dnightryder.com>_ > __http://lists.midnightryder.com/listinfo.cgi/sweng-gamedev-midnightryd= er.com_ > _______________________________________________ > Sweng-Gamedev mailing list_ > [email protected]_ <mailto:[email protected]= dnightryder.com> > http://lists.midnightryder.com/listinfo.cgi/sweng-gamedev-midnightryder= =2Ecom > _______________________________________________ > Sweng-Gamedev mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.midnightryder.com/listinfo.cgi/sweng-gamedev-midnightryder= =2Ecom > > _ > _ > ********************************************************************** > This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and inten= ded solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addre= ssed. If you have received this email in error please notify postmaster@s= cee.net > This footnote also confirms that this email message has been checked fo= r all known viruses. > Sony Computer Entertainment Europe Limited > Registered Office: 10 Great Marlborough Street, London W1F 7LP, United = Kingdom > Registered in England: 3277793 > ********************************************************************** > > P*/Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail/* > > > _______________________________________________ > Sweng-Gamedev mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.midnightryder.com/listinfo.cgi/sweng-gamedev-midnightryder= =2Ecom --------------010806020307080002070801 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <html> <head> <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> Yeah, I see this as fragmentation for little to no benefit.<br> <br> I do use Facebook (but less and less these days) and haven't bothered with Google Plus. I certainly don't bother with groups on Facebook though simply because I have to actively go and log on to Facebook to see any activity (and Facebook doesn't show me everything, just what it thinks is important, which means I then have to go further and search for new topics myself), whereas mailing list posts (all of them) come straight to my inbox.<br> <br> Anything which scrapes posts from Facebook or Google Plus would also have to post responses back to them as well, because I certainly wont bother following up on them.<br> <br> If discussions start appearing on Facebook or Google Plus, then that'll more or less be the end of this mailing list (such as it is these days), and another great resource will wither and die.<br> <br> <br> <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/09/2013 08:35, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a> wrote:<br> </div> <blockquote cite="mid:OF8E54CDBD.F2B65F13-ON80257BE4.0023F834-80257BE4.0024631B@scee.net" type="cite"><font size="2" face="sans-serif">It's a pity that the community will now be fragmented.</font> <br> <br> <font size="2" face="sans-serif">I guess we could easily figure out how to cross post across the different platforms, but any discussion off each of those posts would be limited to the platforms they were done on.</font> <br> <br> <font size="2" face="sans-serif">Perhaps the best solution would be to have a service that scrapes discussions from fb and g+ and posts them to the mailing list as a digest?</font> <br> <font size="2" face="sans-serif"><br> Kieran D'Archambaud</font> <br> <font size="2" face="sans-serif">Lead Game Programmer<br> Sony Computer Entertainment Europe Limited<br> </font><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://eu.playstation.com/"><font size="2" face="sans-serif">http://eu.playstation.com</font></a><font size="2" face="sans-serif"><br> </font> <br> <br> <br> <br> <font size="1" color="#5f5f5f" face="sans-serif">From: </font><font size="1" face="sans-serif">Davis Sickmon <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a></font> <br> <font size="1" color="#5f5f5f" face="sans-serif">To: </font><font size="1" face="sans-serif"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a></font> <br> <font size="1" color="#5f5f5f" face="sans-serif">Date: </font><font size="1" face="sans-serif">12/09/2013 07:29</font> <br> <font size="1" color="#5f5f5f" face="sans-serif">Subject: </font><font size="1" face="sans-serif">Re: [Sweng-Gamedev] Moderator Announcement: SWEng-GameDev on Facebook & Google Plus!</font> <br> <font size="1" color="#5f5f5f" face="sans-serif">Sent by: </font><font size="1" face="sans-serif"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a></font> <br> <hr noshade="noshade"> <br> <br> <br> <font size="3">I went with creating both an FB and a G+ because I know some people who hate FB, and I know some people who hate Google Plus. I'm active on both, so, I wanted to make sure I could let people pick the social network they hated the least ;-)</font> <br> <br> <font size="3">Davis</font> <br> <br> <font size="3">On Sep 12, 2013, at 1:24 AM, OvermindDL1 <</font><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:[email protected]"><font size="3" color="blue"><u>[email protected]</u></font></a><font size="3">> wrote:</font> <br> <p><font size="3">I prefer mailing lists, but I will watch it close on G+ at least, never touch Facebook. :-)</font> </p> <p><font size="3">On Sep 12, 2013 12:19 AM, "Davis Sickmon" <</font><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:[email protected]"><font size="3" color="blue"><u>[email protected]</u></font></a><font size="3">> wrote:</font> <br> <font size="3">Ahh, mailing lists - almost a thing of the past. I say almost, as there's still a number of them around, but the traffic levels slowly fall off as they've lost out to forums and social media.<br> <br> Right now, SWEng-GameDev has 2099 members still, though the last posting on here was in March. It's not uncommon for this list to go a couple months without traffic (see the list archives for examples of that), but it's gotten quiet enough I've finally decided to do something I've been wanting to do for a while: create a Facebook group and a Google Plus community to bring it into a slightly more modern platform. Just to be clear: I'm not closing the list, just providing a new avenue for existing members to continue to enjoy the conversations as a part of other workflows :-)<br> <br> Same rules apply for the Facebook / Google Plus group as on here - no spam, no flaming, semi-on topic posts, no beginning programming posts, etc. Basically, a semi-professional to professional discussion about software engineering.<br> <br> Both groups are closed groups to help keep down the number of spammers, etc., and hopefully continue to have a good signal-to-noise ratio (I've already ran into some Facebook game dev groups that have become useless due to open join policies.) Just hit the group on your preferred social network (or both, if you're so inclined) and you'll be added within a day or so! :-)<br> <br> So, the lists:<br> <br> Facebook - </font><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/199062993608677/" target="_blank"><font size="3" color="blue"><u>https://www.facebook.com/groups/199062993608677/</u></font></a><font size="3"><br> <br> Google - </font><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://plus.google.com/communities/104167304358416136228" target="_blank"><font size="3" color="blue"><u>https://plus.google.com/communities/104167304358416136228</u></font></a><font size="3"><br> <br> I'll probably repeat this message twice more - one in two or three weeks, and one in two or three weeks after that on. Beyond that, I'll just be adding it to the subscription page.<br> <br> Hope to see you all on the new groups :-)<br> <br> Davis Ray Sickmon, Jr<br> Midnight Ryder Technologies<br> List Administrator for a freakin' decade - wow this list is old (and that's just how long it's been on my server! ;-)<br> <br> <br> _______________________________________________<br> Sweng-Gamedev mailing list</font><font size="3" color="blue"><u><br> </u></font><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:[email protected]"><font size="3" color="blue"><u>[email protected]</u></font></a><font size="3" color="blue"><u><br> </u></font><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://lists.midnightryder.com/listinfo.cgi/sweng-gamedev-midnightryder.com" target="_blank"><font size="3" color="blue"><u>http://lists.midnightryder.com/listinfo.cgi/sweng-gamedev-midnightryder.com</u></font></a> <br> <font size="3">_______________________________________________<br> Sweng-Gamedev mailing list</font><font size="3" color="blue"><u><br> </u></font><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:[email protected]"><font size="3" color="blue"><u>[email protected]</u></font></a><font size="3"><br> </font><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://lists.midnightryder.com/listinfo.cgi/sweng-gamedev-midnightryder.com"><font size="3">http://lists.midnightryder.com/listinfo.cgi/sweng-gamedev-midnightryder.com</font></a> <br> <tt><font size="2">_______________________________________________<br> Sweng-Gamedev mailing list<br> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a><br> </font></tt><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://lists.midnightryder.com/listinfo.cgi/sweng-gamedev-midnightryder.com"><tt><font size="2">http://lists.midnightryder.com/listinfo.cgi/sweng-gamedev-midnightryder.com</font></tt></a><tt><font size="2"><br> </font></tt> <br> <font size="2" color="blue" face="sans-serif"><u><br> </u></font><font size="2" face="Arial"><br> **********************************************************************<br> This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. 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