Re: Moderator Announcement: SWEng-GameDev on Facebook & Google Plus!
Douglas Cox <[email protected]> Thu, 12 Sep 2013 11:31:32 -0400
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--===============0655454855== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b2ee283bebcd704e6316e2e --047d7b2ee283bebcd704e6316e2e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I guess this goes against keeping the mailing list, but was there another reason people didn't want to move it to Google Groups<https://groups.google.com>? I usually prefer those just because it's easy when joining a new group to browse and search the old posts. And setting up email notifications works pretty well. -Doug On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 3:12 AM, James Robertson <[email protected]> wrote: > Yeah, I see this as fragmentation for little to no benefit. > > I do use Facebook (but less and less these days) and haven't bothered with > Google Plus. I certainly don't bother with groups on Facebook though > simply because I have to actively go and log on to Facebook to see any > activity (and Facebook doesn't show me everything, just what it thinks is > important, which means I then have to go further and search for new topics > myself), whereas mailing list posts (all of them) come straight to my inbox. > > Anything which scrapes posts from Facebook or Google Plus would also have > to post responses back to them as well, because I certainly wont bother > following up on them. > > If discussions start appearing on Facebook or Google Plus, then that'll > more or less be the end of this mailing list (such as it is these days), > and another great resource will wither and die. > > > > On 12/09/2013 08:35, [email protected] wrote: > > It's a pity that the community will now be fragmented. > > I guess we could easily figure out how to cross post across the different > platforms, but any discussion off each of those posts would be limited to > the platforms they were done on. > > Perhaps the best solution would be to have a service that scrapes > discussions from fb and g+ and posts them to the mailing list as a digest? > > Kieran D'Archambaud > Lead Game Programmer > Sony Computer Entertainment Europe Limited > http://eu.playstation.com > > > > > From: Davis Sickmon <[email protected]><[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Date: 12/09/2013 07:29 > Subject: Re: [Sweng-Gamedev] Moderator Announcement: SWEng-GameDev > on Facebook & Google Plus! > Sent by: [email protected] > ------------------------------ > > > > I went with creating both an FB and a G+ because I know some people who > hate FB, and I know some people who hate Google Plus. I'm active on both, > so, I wanted to make sure I could let people pick the social network they > hated the least ;-) > > Davis > > On Sep 12, 2013, at 1:24 AM, OvermindDL1 <*[email protected]*<[email protected]>> > wrote: > > I prefer mailing lists, but I will watch it close on G+ at least, never > touch Facebook. :-) > > On Sep 12, 2013 12:19 AM, "Davis Sickmon" <*[email protected]*<[email protected]>> > wrote: > Ahh, mailing lists - almost a thing of the past. I say almost, as there's > still a number of them around, but the traffic levels slowly fall off as > they've lost out to forums and social media. > > Right now, SWEng-GameDev has 2099 members still, though the last posting > on here was in March. It's not uncommon for this list to go a couple > months without traffic (see the list archives for examples of that), but > it's gotten quiet enough I've finally decided to do something I've been > wanting to do for a while: create a Facebook group and a Google Plus > community to bring it into a slightly more modern platform. Just to be > clear: I'm not closing the list, just providing a new avenue for existing > members to continue to enjoy the conversations as a part of other workflows > :-) > > Same rules apply for the Facebook / Google Plus group as on here - no > spam, no flaming, semi-on topic posts, no beginning programming posts, etc. > Basically, a semi-professional to professional discussion about software > engineering. > > Both groups are closed groups to help keep down the number of spammers, > etc., and hopefully continue to have a good signal-to-noise ratio (I've > already ran into some Facebook game dev groups that have become useless due > to open join policies.) Just hit the group on your preferred social > network (or both, if you're so inclined) and you'll be added within a day > or so! :-) > > So, the lists: > > Facebook - *https://www.facebook.com/groups/199062993608677/*<https://www.facebook.com/groups/199062993608677/> > > Google - *https://plus.google.com/communities/104167304358416136228*<https://plus.google.com/communities/104167304358416136228> > > I'll probably repeat this message twice more - one in two or three weeks, > and one in two or three weeks after that on. Beyond that, I'll just be > adding it to the subscription page. > > Hope to see you all on the new groups :-) > > Davis Ray Sickmon, Jr > Midnight Ryder Technologies > List Administrator for a freakin' decade - wow this list is old (and > that's just how long it's been on my server! ;-) > > > _______________________________________________ > Sweng-Gamedev mailing list* > **[email protected]*<[email protected]> > * > ** > http://lists.midnightryder.com/listinfo.cgi/sweng-gamedev-midnightryder.com > *<http://lists.midnightryder.com/listinfo.cgi/sweng-gamedev-midnightryder.com> > _______________________________________________ > Sweng-Gamedev mailing list* > **[email protected]*<[email protected]> > http://lists.midnightryder.com/listinfo.cgi/sweng-gamedev-midnightryder.com > _______________________________________________ > Sweng-Gamedev mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.midnightryder.com/listinfo.cgi/sweng-gamedev-midnightryder.com > > * > * > ********************************************************************** > This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended > solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. > If you have received this email in error please notify [email protected] > This footnote also confirms that this email message has been checked for > all known viruses. > Sony Computer Entertainment Europe Limited > Registered Office: 10 Great Marlborough Street, London W1F 7LP, United > Kingdom > Registered in England: 3277793 > ********************************************************************** > > P* Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail* > > _______________________________________________ > Sweng-Gamedev mailing [email protected]://lists.midnightryder.com/listinfo.cgi/sweng-gamedev-midnightryder.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sweng-Gamedev mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.midnightryder.com/listinfo.cgi/sweng-gamedev-midnightryder.com > > --047d7b2ee283bebcd704e6316e2e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr">I guess this goes against keeping the mailing list, but wa= s there another reason people didn't want to move it to <a href=3D"http= s://groups.google.com">Google Groups</a>? =A0I usually prefer those just be= cause it's easy when joining a new group to browse and search the old p= osts. =A0And setting up email notifications works pretty well.<div> <br></div><div>-Doug<br><div><br></div></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extr= a"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 3:12 AM, Jame= s Robertson <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" targ= et=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p= x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> =20 =20 =20 <div text=3D"#000000" bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF"> Yeah, I see this as fragmentation for little to no benefit.<br> <br> I do use Facebook (but less and less these days) and haven't bothered with Google Plus.=A0 I certainly don't bother with groups = on Facebook though simply because I have to actively go and log on to Facebook to see any activity (and Facebook doesn't show me everything, just what it thinks is important, which means I then have to go further and search for new topics myself), whereas mailing list posts (all of them) come straight to my inbox.<br> <br> Anything which scrapes posts from Facebook or Google Plus would also have to post responses back to them as well, because I certainly wont bother following up on them.<br> <br> If discussions start appearing on Facebook or Google Plus, then that'll more or less be the end of this mailing list (such as it is these days), and another great resource will wither and die.<div><div c= lass=3D"h5"><br> <br> <br> <div>On 12/09/2013 08:35, <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">Kier= [email protected]</a> wrote:<br> </div> <blockquote type=3D"cite"><font face=3D"sans-serif">It's a pity tha= t the community will now be fragmented.</font> <br> <br> <font face=3D"sans-serif">I guess we could easily figure out how to cross post across the different platforms, but any discussion off each of those posts would be limited to the platforms they were done on.</font> <br> <br> <font face=3D"sans-serif">Perhaps the best solution would be to have a service that scrapes discussions from fb and g+ and posts them to the mailing list as a digest?</font> <br> <font face=3D"sans-serif"><br> Kieran D'Archambaud</font> <br> <font face=3D"sans-serif">Lead Game Programmer<br> Sony Computer Entertainment Europe Limited<br> </font><a href=3D"http://eu.playstation.com/" target=3D"_blank"><font= face=3D"sans-serif">http://eu.playstation.com</font></a><font face=3D"sans= -serif"><br> </font> <br> <br> <br> <br> <font size=3D"1" color=3D"#5f5f5f" face=3D"sans-serif">From: =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0</font><font size=3D"1" face=3D"sans-serif">Davis Sickmon <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank"><= ;[email protected]></a></font> <br> <font size=3D"1" color=3D"#5f5f5f" face=3D"sans-serif">To: =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0</font><font size=3D"1" face=3D"sans-serif"><a href=3D"mailto:sw= [email protected]" target=3D"_blank">sweng-gamedev@midnightryde= r.com</a></font> <br> <font size=3D"1" color=3D"#5f5f5f" face=3D"sans-serif">Date: =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0</font><font size=3D"1" face=3D"sans-serif">12/09/2013 07:29</fo= nt> <br> <font size=3D"1" color=3D"#5f5f5f" face=3D"sans-serif">Subject: =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0</font><font size=3D"1" face=3D"sans-serif">Re: [Sweng-Gamed= ev] Moderator Announcement: SWEng-GameDev on =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Facebook & Google Plus!</font> <br> <font size=3D"1" color=3D"#5f5f5f" face=3D"sans-serif">Sent by: =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0</font><font size=3D"1" face=3D"sans-serif"><a href=3D"mailt= o:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">sweng-ga= [email protected]</a></font> <br> <hr noshade> <br> <br> <br> <font size=3D"3">I went with creating both an FB and a G+ because I know some people who hate FB, and I know some people who hate Google Plus. I'm active on both, so, I wanted to make sure I could let people pick the social network they hated the least ;-)</font> <br> <br> <font size=3D"3">Davis</font> <br> <br> <font size=3D"3">On Sep 12, 2013, at 1:24 AM, OvermindDL1 <</font>= <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank"><font size=3D"3"= color=3D"blue"><u>[email protected]</u></font></a><font size=3D"3">>= ; wrote:</font> <br> <p><font size=3D"3">I prefer mailing lists, but I will watch it close on G+ at least, never touch Facebook. =A0:-)</font> </p> <p><font size=3D"3">On Sep 12, 2013 12:19 AM, "Davis Sickmon&quo= t; <</font><a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blan= k"><font size=3D"3" color=3D"blue"><u>[email protected]</u></font>= </a><font size=3D"3">> wrote:</font> <br> <font size=3D"3">Ahh, mailing lists - almost a thing of the past. =A0I say almost, as there's still a number of them around, but the traffic levels slowly fall off as they've lost out to forums and social media.<br> <br> Right now, SWEng-GameDev has 2099 members still, though the last posting on here was in March. =A0It's not uncommon for this list to g= o a couple months without traffic (see the list archives for examples of that), but it's gotten quiet enough I've finally decided to do somet= hing I've been wanting to do for a while: =A0create a Facebook group and a Google Plus community to bring it into a slightly more modern platform. =A0Just to be clear: =A0I'm not closing the list, just providing a ne= w avenue for existing members to continue to enjoy the conversations as a part of other workflows :-)<br> <br> Same rules apply for the Facebook / Google Plus group as on here - no spam, no flaming, semi-on topic posts, no beginning programming posts, etc. =A0Basically, a semi-professional to professional discussion about software engineering.<br> <br> Both groups are closed groups to help keep down the number of spammers, etc., and hopefully continue to have a good signal-to-noise ratio (I've already ran into some Facebook game dev groups that have become useless due to open join policies.) =A0Just hit the group on your preferred social network (or both, if you're so inclined) and you'l= l be added within a day or so! :-)<br> <br> So, the lists:<br> <br> Facebook - </font><a href=3D"https://www.facebook.com/groups/1990= 62993608677/" target=3D"_blank"><font size=3D"3" color=3D"blue"><u>https://= www.facebook.com/groups/199062993608677/</u></font></a><font size=3D"3"><br= > <br> Google - </font><a href=3D"https://plus.google.com/communities/10= 4167304358416136228" target=3D"_blank"><font size=3D"3" color=3D"blue"><u>h= ttps://plus.google.com/communities/104167304358416136228</u></font></a><fon= t size=3D"3"><br> <br> I'll probably repeat this message twice more - one in two or three weeks, and one in two or three weeks after that on. =A0Beyond that, I'll just be adding it to the subscription page.<br> <br> Hope to see you all on the new groups :-)<br> <br> Davis Ray Sickmon, Jr<br> Midnight Ryder Technologies<br> List Administrator for a freakin' decade - wow this list is old (and that's just how long it's been on my server! ;-)<br> <br> <br> _______________________________________________<br> Sweng-Gamedev mailing list</font><font size=3D"3" color=3D"blue">= <u><br> </u></font><a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]= m" target=3D"_blank"><font size=3D"3" color=3D"blue"><u>Sweng-Gamedev@lists= .midnightryder.com</u></font></a><font size=3D"3" color=3D"blue"><u><br> </u></font><a href=3D"http://lists.midnightryder.com/listinfo.cgi= /sweng-gamedev-midnightryder.com" target=3D"_blank"><font size=3D"3" color= =3D"blue"><u>http://lists.midnightryder.com/listinfo.cgi/sweng-gamedev-midn= ightryder.com</u></font></a> <br> <font size=3D"3">_______________________________________________<br= > Sweng-Gamedev mailing list</font><font size=3D"3" color=3D"blue">= <u><br> </u></font><a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]= m" target=3D"_blank"><font size=3D"3" color=3D"blue"><u>Sweng-Gamedev@lists= .midnightryder.com</u></font></a><font size=3D"3"><br> </font><a href=3D"http://lists.midnightryder.com/listinfo.cgi/sweng= -gamedev-midnightryder.com" target=3D"_blank"><font size=3D"3">http://lists= .midnightryder.com/listinfo.cgi/sweng-gamedev-midnightryder.com</font></a> <br> <tt><font>_______________________________________________<br> Sweng-Gamedev mailing list<br> <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target= =3D"_blank">[email protected]</a><br> </font></tt><a href=3D"http://lists.midnightryder.com/listinfo.cg= i/sweng-gamedev-midnightryder.com" target=3D"_blank"><tt><font>http://lists= .midnightryder.com/listinfo.cgi/sweng-gamedev-midnightryder.com</font></tt>= </a><tt><font><br> </font></tt> <br> <font color=3D"blue" face=3D"sans-serif"><u><br> </u></font><font face=3D"Arial"><br> **********************************************************************<br> This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. 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