Re: Parental control bug in Windows Vista RC1?
"Jim Scott" <[email protected]> Mon, 8 Jan 2007 16:04:24 -0800
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This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============0907788513== Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C73381.B8D43E9B" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C73381.B8D43E9B Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey I just noticed this and wanted to give a friendly warning. When I did all this stuff with the RC I had a *ton* of problems and became pretty frustrated. Once I upgrade to the gold build it fixed so many issues and it would have saved me a lot of time if I just hadn't bothered doing any of this stuff until the gold build had come out. So if you're still using RC1, I highly recommend switching over to the gold build.=20 =20 Cheers, Jim ________________________________ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Michiel Kolders Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 1:23 AM To: 'Game Development for MS Windows' Cc: 'Jurjen Katsman' Subject: Re: [GD-Windows] Parental control bug in Windows Vista RC1? Ok, I've figured it out now. My test user didn't have the my test "root agency certificate" installed. Once I installed that, VerifyAccess returned pfHasAcces =3D=3D true. =20 Still wondering why the Game Explorer does show the rating, even without the root agency certificate installed. Didn't expect that. Perhaps because the games explorer entry was created for All users, and I was installing it with my administrator user? =20 ________________________________ Van: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Namens Jason Sandlin Verzonden: woensdag 3 januari 2007 14:37 Aan: Game Development for MS Windows Onderwerp: Re: [GD-Windows] Parental control bug in Windows Vista RC1? =20 So VerifyAccess is returning *pfHasAccess =3D=3D false? It's possible = your signing your exe with an untrusted cert. Do you see rating being displayed properly for your game in the Game Explorer UI? Have you tried setting your parental controls to allow games that have no rating to see if that works? =20 =20 Jason =20 From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Michiel Kolders Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 5:19 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [GD-Windows] Parental control bug in Windows Vista RC1? =20 Hi, =20 I've ran into a strange problem with Parental Control in Windows Vista (RC1): I've done all the necessary things to support the feature; embedded manifest, signed the executable, added the game using IGameExplorer in the installer and calling IGameExplorer::VerifyAccess on startup of my game. =20 This all seems to work well, except when I switch Parental Control ON with the following settings. - Game Ratings: Up to 18+ (PEGI) - Block games with no rating - No additional game descriptors blocked - Always blocked: None - Always allowed: None =20 My game has a rating of 12+ (PEGI), so my game should run fine. The Game Explorer indicates that it's allowed to run, and starts the game. Then, when IGameExplorer::VerifyAccess is called, it returns false, denying access! Does anyone here have a clue why the Game Explorer says it's fine, but VerifyAccess thinks it's not? =20 Many thanks in advance! =20 Michiel Kolders =20 =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C73381.B8D43E9B Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML xmlns=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40" xmlns:v =3D=20 "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o =3D=20 "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w =3D=20 "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:st1 =3D=20 "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" xmlns:ns0 =3D=20 "http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml"><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Dus-ascii"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2900.3020" name=3DGENERATOR><!--[if !mso]> <STYLE>v\:* { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML) } o\:* { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML) } w\:* { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML) } .shape { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML) } </STYLE> <![endif]--><o:SmartTagType name=3D"PersonName"=20 namespaceuri=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></o:SmartTagT= ype><!--[if !mso]> <STYLE>st1\:* { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#ieooui) } </STYLE> <![endif]--> <STYLE>@font-face { font-family: Tahoma; } @font-face { font-family: Calibri; } @page Section1 {size: 612.0pt 792.0pt; margin: 72.0pt 90.0pt 72.0pt = 90.0pt; } A:link { mso-style-priority: 99 } SPAN.MSOHYPERLINK { mso-style-priority: 99 } A:visited { mso-style-priority: 99 } SPAN.MSOHYPERLINKFOLLOWED { mso-style-priority: 99 } P.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman" } LI.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman" } DIV.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman" } A:link { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } SPAN.MsoHyperlink { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } A:visited { COLOR: purple; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } SPAN.MsoHyperlinkFollowed { COLOR: purple; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } SPAN.E-mailStijl17 { COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-style-type: personal } SPAN.E-mailStijl18 { COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-style-type: personal } SPAN.E-mailStijl19 { COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; mso-style-type: personal } SPAN.E-mailStijl20 { COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-style-type: personal-reply } DIV.Section1 { page: Section1 } OL { MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0cm } UL { MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0cm } </STYLE> <!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:shapedefaults v:ext=3D"edit" spidmax=3D"1026" /> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:shapelayout v:ext=3D"edit"> <o:idmap v:ext=3D"edit" data=3D"1" /> </o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></HEAD> <BODY lang=3DEN-US vLink=3Dpurple link=3Dblue> <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D200120000-09012007><FONT = face=3DArial=20 color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Hey I just noticed this and wanted to give a = friendly=20 warning. When I did all this stuff with the RC I had a *ton* of = problems=20 and became pretty frustrated. Once I upgrade to the gold build it = fixed so=20 many issues and it would have saved me a lot of time if I just hadn't = bothered=20 doing any of this stuff until the gold build had come out. So if = you're=20 still using RC1, I highly recommend switching over to the gold=20 build. </FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D200120000-09012007><FONT = face=3DArial=20 color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D200120000-09012007><FONT = face=3DArial=20 color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Cheers,</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D200120000-09012007><FONT = face=3DArial=20 color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Jim</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR> <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader lang=3Den-us dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft> <HR tabIndex=3D-1> <FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><B>From:</B>=20 [email protected]=20 [mailto:[email protected]] <B>On Behalf = Of=20 </B>Michiel Kolders<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 04, 2007 1:23=20 AM<BR><B>To:</B> 'Game Development for MS Windows'<BR><B>Cc:</B> 'Jurjen = Katsman'<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [GD-Windows] Parental control bug in = Windows=20 Vista RC1?<BR></FONT><BR></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV class=3DSection1> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Ok, = I’ve figured it out=20 now. My test user didn’t have the my test “root agency = certificate” installed.=20 Once I installed that, VerifyAccess returned pfHasAcces =3D=3D=20 true.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Still = wondering why the=20 Game Explorer does show the rating, even without the root agency = certificate=20 installed. Didn’t expect that. Perhaps because the games explorer = entry was=20 created for All users, and I was installing it with my administrator=20 user?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <DIV> <DIV class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=3Dcenter><FONT = face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN lang=3DNL style=3D"FONT-SIZE: = 12pt"> <HR tabIndex=3D-1 align=3Dcenter width=3D"100%" SIZE=3D2> </SPAN></FONT></DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal><B><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN lang=3DNL=20 style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: = Tahoma">Van:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT=20 face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN lang=3DNL style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; = FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">=20 [email protected]=20 [mailto:[email protected]] <B><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Namens </SPAN></B>Jason Sandlin<BR><B><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Verzonden:</SPAN></B> woensdag 3 januari = 2007=20 14:37<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Aan:</SPAN></B> Game = Development for=20 MS Windows<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Onderwerp:</SPAN></B> = Re:=20 [GD-Windows] Parental control bug in Windows Vista = RC1?</SPAN></FONT><SPAN=20 lang=3DNL><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DCalibri color=3D#1f497d size=3D2><SPAN = style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri">So = VerifyAccess is=20 returning *pfHasAccess =3D=3D false? It’s possible = your signing your exe=20 with an untrusted cert. Do you see rating being displayed = properly=20 for your game in the Game Explorer UI? Have you tried setting your = parental controls to allow games that have no rating to see if that = works? =20 <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DCalibri color=3D#1f497d size=3D2><SPAN = style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: = Calibri"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DCalibri color=3D#1f497d size=3D2><SPAN = style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: = Calibri">Jason<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DCalibri color=3D#1f497d size=3D2><SPAN = style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: = Calibri"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm; BORDER-TOP: = #b5c4df 1pt solid; PADDING-LEFT: 0cm; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; BORDER-LEFT: = medium none; PADDING-TOP: 3pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none"> <P class=3DMsoNormal><B><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: = Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT=20 face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: = Tahoma">=20 [email protected]=20 [mailto:[email protected]] <B><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B><st1:PersonName = w:st=3D"on"=20 ProductID=3D"Michiel Kolders">Michiel = Kolders</st1:PersonName><BR><B><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Wednesday, January 03, 2007 = 5:19=20 AM<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>=20 [email protected]<BR><B><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> [GD-Windows] Parental = control bug=20 in Windows Vista RC1?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier = New'">Hi,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier = New'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">I’ve ran = into a strange=20 problem with Parental Control in <B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: = bold">Windows=20 Vista (RC1)</SPAN></B>: I’ve done all the necessary things to = support the=20 feature; embedded manifest, signed the executable, added the game using=20 IGameExplorer in the installer and calling IGameExplorer::VerifyAccess = on=20 startup of my game.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier = New'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">This all seems to = work well,=20 except when I switch Parental Control ON with the following=20 settings.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal=20 style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-list: l0 level1 = lfo2"><![if !supportLists]><FONT=20 face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'"><SPAN=20 style=3D"mso-list: Ignore">-<FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" = size=3D1><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT: 7pt 'Times New = Roman'"> =20 </SPAN></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></FONT><![endif]><FONT face=3D"Courier New"=20 size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier = New'">Game Ratings:=20 Up to 18+ (PEGI)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal=20 style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-list: l0 level1 = lfo2"><![if !supportLists]><FONT=20 face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'"><SPAN=20 style=3D"mso-list: Ignore">-<FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" = size=3D1><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT: 7pt 'Times New = Roman'"> =20 </SPAN></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></FONT><![endif]><FONT face=3D"Courier New"=20 size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier = New'">Block games=20 with no rating<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal=20 style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-list: l0 level1 = lfo2"><![if !supportLists]><FONT=20 face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'"><SPAN=20 style=3D"mso-list: Ignore">-<FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" = size=3D1><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT: 7pt 'Times New = Roman'"> =20 </SPAN></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></FONT><![endif]><FONT face=3D"Courier New"=20 size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">No = additional=20 game descriptors blocked<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal=20 style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-list: l0 level1 = lfo2"><![if !supportLists]><FONT=20 face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'"><SPAN=20 style=3D"mso-list: Ignore">-<FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" = size=3D1><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT: 7pt 'Times New = Roman'"> =20 </SPAN></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></FONT><![endif]><FONT face=3D"Courier New"=20 size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier = New'">Always blocked:=20 None<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal=20 style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-list: l0 level1 = lfo2"><![if !supportLists]><FONT=20 face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'"><SPAN=20 style=3D"mso-list: Ignore">-<FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" = size=3D1><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT: 7pt 'Times New = Roman'"> =20 </SPAN></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></FONT><![endif]><FONT face=3D"Courier New"=20 size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier = New'">Always allowed:=20 None<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier = New'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">My game has a = rating of 12+=20 (PEGI), so my game should run fine. The Game Explorer indicates that = it’s=20 allowed to run, and starts the game. Then, when = IGameExplorer::VerifyAccess is=20 called, <B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">it returns = false</SPAN></B>, denying=20 access! Does anyone here have a clue why the Game Explorer says = it’s fine, but=20 VerifyAccess thinks it’s not?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier = New'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">Many thanks in=20 advance!<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier = New'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal><st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on" ProductID=3D"Michiel = Kolders"><FONT=20 face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">Michiel=20 Kolders</SPAN></FONT></st1:PersonName><FONT face=3D"Courier New" = size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier = New'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier = New'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier = New'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></BODY></HTML> ------_=_NextPart_001_01C73381.B8D43E9B-- --===============0907788513== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Take Surveys. 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