Re: Parental control bug in Windows Vista RC1?

"Michiel Kolders" <[email protected]> Tue, 9 Jan 2007 11:22:09 +0100
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Thanks! I think I've got it all worked out now (and became pretty frustrated
at times!), but I'll upgrade once my copy has arrived!

 

  _____  

Van: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] Namens Jim Scott
Verzonden: dinsdag 9 januari 2007 1:04
Aan: Game Development for MS Windows
Onderwerp: Re: [GD-Windows] Parental control bug in Windows Vista RC1?

 

Hey I just noticed this and wanted to give a friendly warning.  When I did
all this stuff with the RC I had a *ton* of problems and became pretty
frustrated.  Once I upgrade to the gold build it fixed so many issues and it
would have saved me a lot of time if I just hadn't bothered doing any of
this stuff until the gold build had come out.  So if you're still using RC1,
I highly recommend switching over to the gold build. 

 

Cheers,

Jim

 

  _____  

From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
Michiel Kolders
Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 1:23 AM
To: 'Game Development for MS Windows'
Cc: 'Jurjen Katsman'
Subject: Re: [GD-Windows] Parental control bug in Windows Vista RC1?

Ok, I've figured it out now. My test user didn't have the my test "root
agency certificate" installed. Once I installed that, VerifyAccess returned
pfHasAcces == true.

 

Still wondering why the Game Explorer does show the rating, even without the
root agency certificate installed. Didn't expect that. Perhaps because the
games explorer entry was created for All users, and I was installing it with
my administrator user?

 

  _____  

Van: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] Namens Jason
Sandlin
Verzonden: woensdag 3 januari 2007 14:37
Aan: Game Development for MS Windows
Onderwerp: Re: [GD-Windows] Parental control bug in Windows Vista RC1?

 

So VerifyAccess is returning *pfHasAccess == false?   It's possible your
signing your exe with an untrusted cert.   Do you see rating being displayed
properly for your game in the Game Explorer UI?  Have you tried setting your
parental controls to allow games that have no rating to see if that works?  

 

Jason

 

From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
Michiel Kolders
Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 5:19 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [GD-Windows] Parental control bug in Windows Vista RC1?

 

Hi,

 

I've ran into a strange problem with Parental Control in Windows Vista
(RC1): I've done all the necessary things to support the feature; embedded
manifest, signed the executable, added the game using IGameExplorer in the
installer and calling IGameExplorer::VerifyAccess on startup of my game.

 

This all seems to work well, except when I switch Parental Control ON with
the following settings.

-        Game Ratings: Up to 18+ (PEGI)

-        Block games with no rating

-        No additional game descriptors blocked

-        Always blocked: None

-        Always allowed: None

 

My game has a rating of 12+ (PEGI), so my game should run fine. The Game
Explorer indicates that it's allowed to run, and starts the game. Then, when
IGameExplorer::VerifyAccess is called, it returns false, denying access!
Does anyone here have a clue why the Game Explorer says it's fine, but
VerifyAccess thinks it's not?

 

Many thanks in advance!

 

Michiel Kolders

 

 


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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Thanks! I think I&#8217;ve got it =
all
worked out now (and became pretty frustrated at times!), but I&#8217;ll =
upgrade
once my copy has arrived!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
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[email protected]</span></font><font =
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>t
[mailto:[email protected]] <b><span
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Namens </span></b>Jim Scott<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Verzonden:</span></b> dinsdag 9 =
januari 2007
1:04<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Aan:</span></b> <st1:PersonName =
w:st=3D"on">Game
 Development for MS Windows</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Onderwerp:</span></b> Re: =
[GD-Windows]
Parental control bug in Windows Vista RC1?</span></font><span =
lang=3DNL><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Hey I just noticed this and wanted =
to give
a friendly warning.&nbsp; When I did all this stuff with the RC I had a =
*ton*
of problems and became pretty frustrated.&nbsp; Once I upgrade to the =
gold
build it fixed so many issues and it would have saved me a lot of time =
if I
just hadn't bothered doing any of this stuff until the gold build had =
come
out.&nbsp; So if you're still using RC1, I highly recommend switching =
over to
the gold build.&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Cheers,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>=


<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span =
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n></font></b><font
size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
[email protected] =
[mailto:[email protected]]
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of =
</span></b><st1:PersonName
ProductID=3D"Michiel Kolders" w:st=3D"on">Michiel =
Kolders</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, January =
04, 2007
1:23 AM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> '<st1:PersonName =
w:st=3D"on">Game
 Development for MS Windows</st1:PersonName>'<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> 'Jurjen Katsman'<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [GD-Windows] =
Parental
control bug in Windows Vista RC1?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Ok, I&#8217;ve figured it out now. =
My test
user didn&#8217;t have the my test &#8220;root agency certificate&#8221;
installed. Once I installed that, VerifyAccess returned pfHasAcces =
=3D=3D true.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Still wondering why the Game =
Explorer does
show the rating, even without the root agency certificate installed.
Didn&#8217;t expect that. Perhaps because the games explorer entry was =
created
for All users, and I was installing it with my administrator =
user?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span lang=3DNL =
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face=3DTahoma><span lang=3DNL =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
[email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] <b><span
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Namens </span></b>Jason Sandlin<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Verzonden:</span></b> woensdag 3 =
januari 2007
14:37<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Aan:</span></b> <st1:PersonName =
w:st=3D"on">Game
 Development for MS Windows</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Onderwerp:</span></b> Re: =
[GD-Windows]
Parental control bug in Windows Vista RC1?</span></font><span =
lang=3DNL><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
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face=3DCalibri><span
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>So =
VerifyAccess is
returning *pfHasAccess =3D=3D false?&nbsp; &nbsp;It&#8217;s possible =
your signing
your exe with an untrusted cert.&nbsp;&nbsp; Do you see rating being =
displayed
properly for your game in the Game Explorer UI?&nbsp; Have you tried =
setting
your parental controls to allow games that have no rating to see if that =
works?&nbsp;
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font =
size=3D2
face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
[email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] <b><span
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b><st1:PersonName
ProductID=3D"Michiel Kolders" w:st=3D"on">Michiel =
Kolders</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, January =
03, 2007
5:19 AM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b>
[email protected]<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [GD-Windows] =
Parental
control bug in Windows Vista RC1?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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</div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
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12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>Hi,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>I&#8217;ve ran into a strange problem with =
Parental
Control in <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Windows Vista =
(RC1)</span></b>:
I&#8217;ve done all the necessary things to support the feature; =
embedded
manifest, signed the executable, added the game using IGameExplorer in =
the
installer and calling IGameExplorer::VerifyAccess on startup of my =
game.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>This all seems to work well, except when I =
switch
Parental Control ON with the following =
settings.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt'><font size=3D2
face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
New"'>-</span></font><font
size=3D1><span =
style=3D'font-size:7.0pt'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></font><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>Game Ratings: Up to 18+ =
(PEGI)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt'><font size=3D2
face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
New"'>-</span></font><font
size=3D1><span =
style=3D'font-size:7.0pt'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></font><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>Block games with no =
rating<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt'><font size=3D2
face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
New"'>-</span></font><font
size=3D1><span =
style=3D'font-size:7.0pt'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></font><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>No additional game descriptors =
blocked<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt'><font size=3D2
face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
New"'>-</span></font><font
size=3D1><span =
style=3D'font-size:7.0pt'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></font><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>Always blocked: =
None<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt'><font size=3D2
face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
New"'>-</span></font><font
size=3D1><span =
style=3D'font-size:7.0pt'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></font><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>Always allowed: =
None<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>My game has a rating of 12+ (PEGI), so my =
game
should run fine. The Game Explorer indicates that it&#8217;s allowed to =
run,
and starts the game. Then, when IGameExplorer::VerifyAccess is called, =
<b><span
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>it returns false</span></b>, denying access! =
Does
anyone here have a clue why the Game Explorer says it&#8217;s fine, but
VerifyAccess thinks it&#8217;s not?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>Many thanks in =
advance!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><st1:PersonName ProductID=3D"Michiel Kolders" =
w:st=3D"on"><font
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Michiel
 Kolders</span></font></st1:PersonName><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier =
New"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
New"'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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