Re: Suggestions for GM Error

I think a rollback should never be done.

I mentioned this in my DATC as a golden rule.
The reason is simple, you can undo a move in
chess, but you can't undo exposing the orders
and intentions of the players.

By the way, you have the same dilemma with random
things. If you have a game with dice, then you can't
undo the roll of a die. So, make in such case it
very clear when such roll is valid or not.

Regards,

Lucas
--- In [email protected], Charles Louis Steinhardt 
<csteinh@f...> wrote:
> There's a (non-Cat23) judge game in which the following happened.
> 
> There are seven people playing that all know each other outside the 
game,
> and a newbie GM.  A number of players have requested deadlines, and 
this
> has been frustrating various people in the game.
> 
> So in a Fall turn, England requested a deadline extension at the 
last
> minute, and was given a one-day extension.  He then submitted orders
> without setting wait, but three other powers (IGT) all had the wait 
flag
> set.
> 
> The next morning, a number of players complained vocally about the 
delay,
> and so the GM noticed that all orders were in and rather than 
waiting
> until the deadline, force-processed the game.  Unfortunately, Italy 
had
> apparently been in the midst of changing his orders, was shocked by 
the
> processing, and submitted orders that he claims were not his intent.
> These orders did actually result in a two-center stab for the 
Italian
> (successful), but Italy still insisted that he had not actually 
wanted to
> make the stab.
> 
> The GM then decided without really consulting anybody to rollback 
the
> turn, which now leads to the usual godawful mess that happens when 
you
> rollback a turn.
> 
> What is the best thing to do in this case in order to be maximally 
fair to
> all players?  The game had been essentially a six-power stalemate 
and four
> different powers chose to stab during this turn, so a rollback 
causes
> quite a number of problems.  On the other hand, it was also unfair 
to
> Italy that he was forced to submit the wrong orders because the GM
> preprocessed after extending the deadline.  But we have to deal 
with the
> situation as it is, rather than as it should be, so I'd like to get 
your
> opinion on the right way to proceed from here.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 	-Charles (who is neither a player nor the GM, and might I add 
is
> not the GM, but an interested observer that knows all parties 
involved)