Re: Update

rsetzer <[email protected]> Tue, 26 Jul 2005 08:21:25 -0500
Newsgroups gmane.games.diplomacy.cat23.gm
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Returning orders to a player for clarification is sort of like error 
checking innit? And if you do it for one, you have to do it for all, all 
the time.



lgtennant wrote:
> Sorry, Libby, but I would say that your return of orders to a player for clarification is totally uncalled for.  IMO it is GM interference of the first order.  You should simply accept them as is, publish them as is, and then give your interpretation of what they mean. Len
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: squirelibbymcafee 
>   To: [email protected] 
>   Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 12:15 PM
>   Subject: [CAT23-GM] Update
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> 
>   Gentleman,
> 
>   Thank you all for your input.  I would have responded sooner, but I 
>   have come down with a bug and am trying to get as much rest as 
>   possible.  There were however a couple of questions raised that I at 
>   least should respond to.
> 
>   First, in the game I am running, the issues of whether or not the 
>   orders are ambiguous or not (I ruled both as unclear) is moot given the 
>   others orders submitted by the players opposition.  For that I am 
>   thankful.
> 
>   Second, I believe one of you asked about instructions I may have 
>   provided in my house rules regarding the writing of orders. An expert 
>   from rule seven reads as follows:
> 
>   "The clarity and detail of submitted orders is up to the player. 
>   Brevity is discouraged. All submitted orders are to be written in 
>   agreement with the official rules (See Abbreviations). Variations that 
>   are without any vagueness of intent, or are with out ambiguity, will be 
>   acceptable. The GM will make no attempt to correct a player's orders."
> 
>   Third, I require prelims, as many of your know.  One of the reasons I 
>   do so, is that sometimes I am able to catch a problem with a player's 
>   orders and suggest they re-examine what they have submitted.  In this 
>   instance the player failed to meet the prelim deadline and therefore 
>   this opportunity was not available to me.  I don't always look at 
>   orders, but in this game on at least two separate occassions I have 
>   prompted players to relook the orders they have submitted.
> 
>   As for the strict interpretation of the "English" language, in my 
>   personal opinion the point is moot if players do as I suggest and 
>   either write the orders in agreement with the game rules, or do as I do 
>   and submit the orders copied from the RP software.  Granted, I can 
>   still submit an invalid order with RP, but at least the GM doesn't have 
>   to ponder the language, just the logic.
> 
>   Thank you all,
> 
>   Libby
> 
>   wnrytyrsd
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