Re: Update

rsetzer <[email protected]> Tue, 26 Jul 2005 08:22:27 -0500
Newsgroups gmane.games.diplomacy.cat23.gm
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Well, heck, in defense of a judge the, it checks your orders and tells 
you if you made a mistake as well.



Randall Shane wrote:
> You say that like it's a bad thing.
> 
> If that's how Libby runs her games, and if the players are aware that
> she will give a player a chance to clarify ambiguous prelim orders --
> well, it may technically be GM interference, but it's certainly well
> within acceptable bounds.
> 
> That's the beauty of human run games -- as long as the GM is fair,
> flexibility can be allowed, and can help games run much more enjoyably.
> 
> --- lgtennant <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
>>Sorry, Libby, but I would say that your return of orders to a player
>>for clarification is totally uncalled for.  IMO it is GM interference
>>of the first order.  You should simply accept them as is, publish
>>them as is, and then give your interpretation of what they mean. Len
>>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>>  From: squirelibbymcafee 
>>  To: [email protected] 
>>  Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 12:15 PM
>>  Subject: [CAT23-GM] Update
>>
>>
>>  Gentleman,
>>
>>  Thank you all for your input.  I would have responded sooner, but I
>>
>>  have come down with a bug and am trying to get as much rest as 
>>  possible.  There were however a couple of questions raised that I
>>at 
>>  least should respond to.
>>
>>  First, in the game I am running, the issues of whether or not the 
>>  orders are ambiguous or not (I ruled both as unclear) is moot given
>>the 
>>  others orders submitted by the players opposition.  For that I am 
>>  thankful.
>>
>>  Second, I believe one of you asked about instructions I may have 
>>  provided in my house rules regarding the writing of orders. An
>>expert 
>>  from rule seven reads as follows:
>>
>>  "The clarity and detail of submitted orders is up to the player. 
>>  Brevity is discouraged. All submitted orders are to be written in 
>>  agreement with the official rules (See Abbreviations). Variations
>>that 
>>  are without any vagueness of intent, or are with out ambiguity,
>>will be 
>>  acceptable. The GM will make no attempt to correct a player's
>>orders."
>>
>>  Third, I require prelims, as many of your know.  One of the reasons
>>I 
>>  do so, is that sometimes I am able to catch a problem with a
>>player's 
>>  orders and suggest they re-examine what they have submitted.  In
>>this 
>>  instance the player failed to meet the prelim deadline and
>>therefore 
>>  this opportunity was not available to me.  I don't always look at 
>>  orders, but in this game on at least two separate occassions I have
>>
>>  prompted players to relook the orders they have submitted.
>>
>>  As for the strict interpretation of the "English" language, in my 
>>  personal opinion the point is moot if players do as I suggest and 
>>  either write the orders in agreement with the game rules, or do as
>>I do 
>>  and submit the orders copied from the RP software.  Granted, I can 
>>  still submit an invalid order with RP, but at least the GM doesn't
>>have 
>>  to ponder the language, just the logic.
>>
>>  Thank you all,
>>
>>  Libby
>>
>>  wnrytyrsd
>>
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