Re: Question on player suicide

"lbxwijk" <[email protected]> Sun, 18 Jan 2004 00:36:20 -0000
Newsgroups gmane.games.diplomacy.cat23.gm
Message-ID <[email protected]>
I should have read the other replies first.

Even when the support is legal, it will be cut.
So, we don't have a new rule issue here.

Still, I have to add this to my DATC.

Lucas



--- In [email protected], "lbxwijk" <L.B.Kruijswijk@i...> 
wrote:
> --- In [email protected], Adam Kuehn <akuehn@n...> wrote:
> > At 9:49 AM -0500 1/15/04, Iancowburn2@a... wrote:
> > >"A Budapest Supports A Serbia - Budapest
> > >A Bulgaria Supports A Constantinople - Bulgaria
> > >F Greece Supports F Ionian Sea - Greece
> > >A Trieste Supports A Venice - Trieste
> > >A Vienna Supports A Bohemia - Vienna
> > >
> > >Now, obviously, these orders are illegal."
> > >
> > >They ARE illegal, cause no self dislodgement. So every piece 
HOLDS.
> > 
> > Just to be a little persnickety, these orders are not technically 
> > illegal.  I see nothing in the rules which prohibit a unit from 
> > supporting an attack on its own space.
> They are illegal to my opinion. You can only support to a place
> you can go to. Since you can't go to your own place (according to
> the rules), you can't also support to that.
> 
> However, there is no test case for it in my DATC
> (I will add it).
> 
> For instance, it could be usefull in a very rare case.
> When you want to dislodge an unit (to rebuild somewhere
> else), but there might be an attack on that area. In that
> you don't want the attack to succeed:
> 
> Germany: 
> A Berlin - Prussia
> A Silesia Supports A Berlin - Prussia
> F Baltic Sea Supports A Berlin - Prussia
> 
> Italy: 
> A Prussia Supports Livonia - Prussia
> 
> Russia: 
> A Warsaw Supports A Livonia - Prussia
> A Livonia - Prussia
> 
> Here Italy and Russia want to get rid of the
> Italian army in Prussia, but they don't want
> a German attack to succeed if Germany attacks.
> 
> However, the Italian support order must be
> treated illegaly (in my opinion) and therefore,
> the German attack succeeds.
> 
> Lucas