Re: Four posts in two years!! From: Former Trout

Len <[email protected]> Fri, 08 Jun 2007 10:41:04 -0700
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To add my own comment to all this.  I found I had enough gaming with World Masters and other tournament play such as Patriot Games. Then there's also the numerous face-to-face tournaments all over the globe.  World DipCon is in Vancouver (my home turf) this August and I hope to see many of you there.  Let's carry on this discussion over a pint at the beautiful UBC campus.
Len Tennant

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Ray Setzer 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 6:51 AM
  Subject: Re: [CAT23-GM] Four posts in two years!! From: Former Trout




  Former Trout wrote:
  > I don't buy it. You both say that you think Cat23 should die the
  > death of the neglected, yet you both took the time to respond to my
  > post. =)

  Because I have not neglected life and camaraderie, only Diplomacy.

  The domain is mine, and occasional wanderers dropping by cat23.com 
  express curiosity as to what happened to the dip. Cat23 has morphed into 
  my video production company, Cat23 Video. This summer we will be 
  producing a video detailing the haunting activities early 1900's theater 
  in our town.

  As for Cat23 Diplomacy, you are quite welcome to reoil the pumps and 
  give it another spin.

  Back in the early 90's a small group of us spun out of the dying private 
  BBS's and started up internet diplomacy. It was quite successful in its 
  time. At one point we had well over a thousand active members and games 
  would be started multiple times each week and it typically took a couple 
  hours to fill a game. No ratings, no police. It was the summer of love...:)

  The Worldmasters tournament grew out of Cat23 back in 99 as well. Over 
  700 in the first tourney. People came out of the woods all over the 
  world to play on neutral ground.

  Since then, Cat23 has slid into the autumn of its life. Its children 
  have all grown and have sprung up dip sites all over the internet. So 
  you will have to excuse us when a few old farts sit around the front 
  porch telling old stories that don't go anywhere. We close the cafe and 
  put up a 'help yourself' sign about a year ago. And here you come, 
  pulling up in your fancy new chevy with your 'right here in dippy city' 
  line.

  We meant no disrespect. Its just the rule that you have to get past the 
  cranky old farts on the porch before you can go in and fire up the grill 
  in the Cat23 Blue Parrot Lounge. Watch that second burner, it sometime 
  flares up.

  > There are still a lot of people that play Dip on Cat-23. Haven't had
  > any trouble finding players to play the last few games I've started,
  > beyond the usual lag that you also see on other dip sites out there.
  > If games don't fill up overnight, well, that's one of the things that
  > I'm hoping to help with this lil challenge of mine.
  > 
  > The name Cat-23 is one of the endearing features of this community.
  > So its not 'dippy'? I'm not sure what that has to do with anything.
  > 
  > The 'To:' field for replying? Isn't that a simple fix on yahoogroups
  > by the moderators? Thought they just had to change a setting...
  > 
  > Cat-23 hasn't been dying, its only been hibernating...
  > 
  > ----- Original Message ---- From: Ray Setzer <[email protected]> To:
  > [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2007 4:15:44 PM 
  > Subject: Re: [CAT23-GM] Four posts in two years!! From: Former Trout
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  > Hugh Polley wrote:
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  >> I believe three things happened with Cat, its former master
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  >> left the field and ended his server support,
  > 
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  > 
  > that would be me.... :)
  > 
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  > Game Master's
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  >> such as myself would fish for players and come up dry. And
  > 
  >> players began to support DipyWorld because that is were all
  > 
  >> the action is. Last but not least when I replied to your
  > 
  >> message it places no-reply ... in TO: field. Cat is not a
  > 
  >> 'Dipy' like name, let it die a natural death.
  > 
  > 
  >> What might be more useful is if someone were to combine the
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  >> DipyKnight and CAT features into a new server supported
  > 
  >> DIPYKNIGHT site, with a better Player rating system. One
  > 
  >> that is relative rather than accumulative. In other words
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  >> you do not have a high rating just because you have played
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            <p>To add my own comment to all this.  I found I had enough gaming with World Masters and other tournament play such as Patriot Games. Then there's also the numerous face-to-face tournaments all over the globe.  World DipCon is in Vancouver (my home turf) this August and I hope to see many of you there.  Let's carry on this discussion over a pint at the beautiful UBC campus.<br>
Len Tennant<br>
<br>
----- Original Message ----- <br>
  From: Ray Setzer <br>
  To: <a href="mailto:CAT23-GM%40yahoogroups.com">CAT23-GM@yahoogroup<wbr>s.com</a> <br>
  Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 6:51 AM<br>
  Subject: Re: [CAT23-GM] Four posts in two years!! From: Former Trout<br>
<br>
Former Trout wrote:<br>
  &gt; I don't buy it. You both say that you think Cat23 should die the<br>
  &gt; death of the neglected, yet you both took the time to respond to my<br>
  &gt; post. =)<br>
<br>
Because I have not neglected life and camaraderie, only Diplomacy.<br>
<br>
The domain is mine, and occasional wanderers dropping by cat23.com <br>
  express curiosity as to what happened to the dip. Cat23 has morphed into <br>
  my video production company, Cat23 Video. This summer we will be <br>
  producing a video detailing the haunting activities early 1900's theater <br>
  in our town.<br>
<br>
As for Cat23 Diplomacy, you are quite welcome to reoil the pumps and <br>
  give it another spin.<br>
<br>
Back in the early 90's a small group of us spun out of the dying private <br>
  BBS's and started up internet diplomacy. It was quite successful in its <br>
  time. At one point we had well over a thousand active members and games <br>
  would be started multiple times each week and it typically took a couple <br>
  hours to fill a game. No ratings, no police. It was the summer of love...:)<br>
<br>
The Worldmasters tournament grew out of Cat23 back in 99 as well. Over <br>
  700 in the first tourney. People came out of the woods all over the <br>
  world to play on neutral ground.<br>
<br>
Since then, Cat23 has slid into the autumn of its life. Its children <br>
  have all grown and have sprung up dip sites all over the internet. So <br>
  you will have to excuse us when a few old farts sit around the front <br>
  porch telling old stories that don't go anywhere. We close the cafe and <br>
  put up a 'help yourself' sign about a year ago. And here you come, <br>
  pulling up in your fancy new chevy with your 'right here in dippy city' <br>
  line.<br>
<br>
We meant no disrespect. Its just the rule that you have to get past the <br>
  cranky old farts on the porch before you can go in and fire up the grill <br>
  in the Cat23 Blue Parrot Lounge. Watch that second burner, it sometime <br>
  flares up.<br>
<br>
&gt; There are still a lot of people that play Dip on Cat-23. Haven't had<br>
  &gt; any trouble finding players to play the last few games I've started,<br>
  &gt; beyond the usual lag that you also see on other dip sites out there.<br>
  &gt; If games don't fill up overnight, well, that's one of the things that<br>
  &gt; I'm hoping to help with this lil challenge of mine.<br>
  &gt; <br>
  &gt; The name Cat-23 is one of the endearing features of this community.<br>
  &gt; So its not 'dippy'? I'm not sure what that has to do with anything.<br>
  &gt; <br>
  &gt; The 'To:' field for replying? Isn't that a simple fix on yahoogroups<br>
  &gt; by the moderators? Thought they just had to change a setting...<br>
  &gt; <br>
  &gt; Cat-23 hasn't been dying, its only been hibernating.<wbr>..<br>
  &gt; <br>
  &gt; ----- Original Message ---- From: Ray Setzer &lt;<a href="mailto:mczet%40cat23.com">mczet@cat23.<wbr>com</a>&gt; To:<br>
  &gt; <a href="mailto:CAT23-GM%40yahoogroups.com">CAT23-GM@yahoogroup<wbr>s.com</a> Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2007 4:15:44 PM <br>
  &gt; Subject: Re: [CAT23-GM] Four posts in two years!! From: Former Trout<br>
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  &gt; Hugh Polley wrote:<br>
  &gt; <br>
  &gt;&gt; I believe three things happened with Cat, its former master<br>
  &gt; <br>
  &gt;&gt; left the field and ended his server support,<br>
  &gt; <br>
  &gt; <br>
  &gt; <br>
  &gt; that would be me.... :)<br>
  &gt; <br>
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  &gt; <br>
  &gt; Game Master's<br>
  &gt; <br>
  &gt;&gt; such as myself would fish for players and come up dry. And<br>
  &gt; <br>
  &gt;&gt; players began to support DipyWorld because that is were all<br>
  &gt; <br>
  &gt;&gt; the action is. Last but not least when I replied to your<br>
  &gt; <br>
  &gt;&gt; message it places no-reply ... in TO: field. Cat is not a<br>
  &gt; <br>
  &gt;&gt; 'Dipy' like name, let it die a natural death.<br>
  &gt; <br>
  &gt; <br>
  &gt;&gt; What might be more useful is if someone were to combine the<br>
  &gt; <br>
  &gt;&gt; DipyKnight and CAT features into a new server supported<br>
  &gt; <br>
  &gt;&gt; DIPYKNIGHT site, with a better Player rating system. One<br>
  &gt; <br>
  &gt;&gt; that is relative rather than accumulative. In other words<br>
  &gt; <br>
  &gt;&gt; you do not have a high rating just because you have played<br>
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