Re: Next week's survey - Favorite Variants
"Doug Burgoyne" <[email protected]> Thu, 10 Apr 2008 18:40:46 -0600
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--lkdI11UqKLDHspoBvPnizASz1D0GbguHYdwVzCR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit actually numerous versions of this have been played, and I have GMed many of them. Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "Suzanne Castagne" <[email protected]> To: "Babak Talebi" <[email protected]> Cc: "Martin Gilbey" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 1:19 PM Subject: Re: [CAT23-Ngame] Next week's survey - Favorite Variants >I looked at the description; it does look interesting. Do > the players know how many SC's there are altogether? > > > Babak Talebi a écrit : >> Thank you Martin for that vote of confidence... >> >> Thanks to the Variant Bank - the rules for CivDip survive yet - >> >> http://www.variantbank.org/results/rules/c/civdip.htm >> >> To my knowledge only 3 games of this variant were ever played - with me >> having GMed in one, and having played in a second (where I got demolished >> to >> my embarrassment ;P) >> >> It is a pretty tough and time consuming game to GM (maybe two GMs should >> be >> used - I don't know) because each player has to receive individuated maps >> every season and the GM has to keep track of what each civ sees, all >> trades, >> etc. but absolutely worth the time and effort because the GM gets to see >> everything and watch as the various 'nations' blindly look for new SCs to >> conquer and have theirs taken by surprise attacks from the dark. >> >> The game is of course inspired by (arguably) the best PC game ever >> devised - >> Sid Meier's Civilization (I through IV). >> >> If ever a brave soul was to decide to GM this variant (Martin - can it be >> true?)- I want to be the first to sign up :) >> >> Babak >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 10:53 AM, Martin Gilbey >> <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Steve, >>> >>> >>> >>> The re-appearance of Babak Talebi on the Cat23 NGame list prompts me to >>> nominate his CivDip as my favourite Variant. I would otherwise have >>> suggested Seismic Diplomacy, however, having penned some 'version 2 >>> rules' for this, I feel this perhaps precludes me from doing so. >>> >>> >>> >>> Et al, >>> >>> >>> >>> In fact, if anyone has hitherto unseen Diplomacy Map (not too complex) >>> that they would like to see the light of day, send me a copy of it at >>> 'mgdip AT yahoo DOT com' and I will run either of the following games >>> (according to popularity) on that map:- >>> >>> >>> >>> a. CivDip (- Effectively this is 1899 combined with Fog of War). >>> b. CivDip with Seismic V2 orders (- Complete rules will be >>> written-up for this). >>> >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> >>> >>> Martin Gilbey >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Confidentiality Notice: >>> The information contained in this e-mail is for the intended >>> recipient(s) >>> alone. 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Groups Links >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > --lkdI11UqKLDHspoBvPnizASz1D0GbguHYdwVzCR Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/htm= l4/strict.dtd"> <html> <head> </head> <body style=3D"background-color: #ffffff;"> <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlStartT|**|-~--> <div id=3D"ygrp-mlmsg" style=3D"width:655px; position:relative;"> <div id=3D"ygrp-msg" style=3D"width: 470px; margin:0; padding:0 25px 0 0; f= loat:left; z-index:1;"> <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlEndT|**|-~--> <div id=3D"ygrp-text"> <p>actually numerous versions of this have been played, and I h= ave GMed many of <br> them.<br> <br> Doug<br> <br> ----- Original Message ----- <br> From: "Suzanne Castagne" <<a href=3D"mailto:sucastag%40wanadoo= .fr">sucastag@wanadoo.<wbr>fr</a>><br> To: "Babak Talebi" <<a href=3D"mailto:babaktalebi%40gmail.com"= >babaktalebi@<wbr>gmail.com</a>><br> Cc: "Martin Gilbey" <<a href=3D"mailto:Martin.Gilbey%40sitestr= eam.biz">Martin.Gilbey@<wbr>sitestream.<wbr>biz</a>>; <br> <<a href=3D"mailto:ACD-Chat%40yahoogroups.com">ACD-Chat@yahoogroup<wbr>s= .com</a>>; <<a href=3D"mailto:ACD-Games%40yahoogroups.com">ACD-Games@= yahoogrou<wbr>ps.com</a>>; <br> <<a href=3D"mailto:CAT23-Ngame%40yahoogroups.com">CAT23-Ngame@<wbr>yahoo= groups.<wbr>com</a>>; <<a href=3D"mailto:dipknights%40yahoogroups.com= ">dipknights@yahoogro<wbr>ups.com</a>><br> Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 1:19 PM<br> Subject: Re: [CAT23-Ngame] Next week's survey - Favorite Variants<br> <br> >I looked at the description; it does look interesting. Do<br> > the players know how many SC's there are altogether?<br> ><br> ><br> > Babak Talebi a =E9crit :<br> >> Thank you Martin for that vote of confidence..<wbr>.<br> >><br> >> Thanks to the Variant Bank - the rules for CivDip survive yet -<br= > >><br> >> <a href=3D"http://www.variantbank.org/results/rules/c/civdip.htm">= http://www.variantb<wbr>ank.org/results/<wbr>rules/c/civdip.<wbr>htm</a><br= > >><br> >> To my knowledge only 3 games of this variant were ever played - wi= th me<br> >> having GMed in one, and having played in a second (where I got dem= olished <br> >> to<br> >> my embarrassment ;P)<br> >><br> >> It is a pretty tough and time consuming game to GM (maybe two GMs = should <br> >> be<br> >> used - I don't know) because each player has to receive individuat= ed maps<br> >> every season and the GM has to keep track of what each civ sees, a= ll <br> >> trades,<br> >> etc. but absolutely worth the time and effort because the GM gets = to see<br> >> everything and watch as the various 'nations' blindly look for new= SCs to<br> >> conquer and have theirs taken by surprise attacks from the dark.<b= r> >><br> >> The game is of course inspired by (arguably) the best PC game ever= <br> >> devised -<br> >> Sid Meier's Civilization (I through IV).<br> >><br> >> If ever a brave soul was to decide to GM this variant (Martin - ca= n it be<br> >> true?)- I want to be the first to sign up :)<br> >><br> >> Babak<br> >><br> >><br> >><br> >><br> >><br> >> On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 10:53 AM, Martin Gilbey <br> >> <<a href=3D"mailto:Martin.Gilbey%40sitestream.biz">Martin.Gilbe= y@<wbr>sitestream.<wbr>biz</a>><br> >> wrote:<br> >><br> >>> Steve,<br> >>><br> >>><br> >>><br> >>> The re-appearance of Babak Talebi on the Cat23 NGame list prom= pts me to<br> >>> nominate his CivDip as my favourite Variant. I would otherwise= have<br> >>> suggested Seismic Diplomacy, however, having penned some 'vers= ion 2<br> >>> rules' for this, I feel this perhaps precludes me from doing s= o.<br> >>><br> >>><br> >>><br> >>> Et al,<br> >>><br> >>><br> >>><br> >>> In fact, if anyone has hitherto unseen Diplomacy Map (not too = complex)<br> >>> that they would like to see the light of day, send me a copy o= f it at<br> >>> 'mgdip AT yahoo DOT com' and I will run either of the followin= g games<br> >>> (according to popularity) on that map:-<br> >>><br> >>><br> >>><br> >>> a. CivDip (- Effectively this is 1899 combined with Fog o= f War).<br> >>> b. CivDip with Seismic V2 orders (- Complete rules will b= e<br> >>> written-up for this).<br> >>><br> >>><br> >>><br> >>> Regards,<br> >>><br> >>><br> >>><br> >>> Martin Gilbey<br> >>><br> >>><br> >>><br> >>><br> >>><br> >>><br> >>><br> >>><br> >>> Confidentiality Notice:<br> >>> The information contained in this e-mail is for the intended <= br> >>> recipient(s)<br> >>> alone. It may contain privileged and confidential information = that is <br> >>> exempt<br> >>> from disclosure under English law and if you are not an intend= ed <br> >>> recipient,<br> >>> you must not copy, distribute or take any action in reliance o= n it.<br> >>> If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us im= mediately <br> >>> by<br> >>> using the reply facility on your e-mail system. 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