Re: Re: Throwing the game.

Jerrod Hansen <[email protected]> Tue, 21 Dec 2010 10:28:31 +0900
Newsgroups gmane.games.diplomacy.judge.dp.discussion
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Nice sig. Me loves some Bruce Schneier. :)

On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 10:21 AM, Chris Babcock <[email protected]>wrote:

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> I don't know why some players remain convinced that their subjective view
> of the game enables them to so much more reliably detect cheating than the
> moderator's view, which includes press between all parties and IP addresses.
> News flash... Of course it looks like players are colluding with one
> another. They are!
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> Players, even those otherwise qualified, are not in a position to
> distinguish whether the collusion they detect is in game or out of game. If
> they think they can tell from the player seat whether another player is
> cheating then they are not qualified to moderate a game.
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> Also, USDP has a conflict resolution policy:
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> Any player who becomes aware that any other player or GameMaster is acting
> in violation of these rules, intentionally or otherwise, has a positive
> obligation to immediately inform the GameMaster (or, in the case of
> perceived violation by the GameMaster, the judgekeeper).
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> In other words, accusing other players or the GM of cheating serves no
> reasonable in-game purpose because any actual suspicion of cheating must
> immediately be reported. Accusing the GM of collusion with players to any
> other party than the judgekeeper should be grounds for removal.
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> Signoff
> Chris
> --
> IT security in 2020 will be less about protecting you from traditional bad
> guys, and more about protecting corporate business models from you.
>   -- Bruce Schneier
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> On Dec 20, 2010 5:20 PM, "Been Chissled" <[email protected]> wrote:
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> I gues he doesn't have the time to take this seriously. I am not talking
> out my ass or trying to be a dick but Thorin what gives.  I think you have a
> system that show if something is from the same system and if not you no
> longer have the time to check into it.  I ask everyone that has any power
> here to look into this.   Italy and Austria in game 244 are in a fix.
>  Whatever I will not be playing more Owles games until I get an apology from
> Thorin.  The majority of house rules are to keep people from cheating.  Ask
> for them to be inforced and you would think you asked for a kidney.   I am
> done....     Happy holidays to all.
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> Hope I don't get kicked out I love this game but this is crap.
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> --- In [email protected], "thorinmunro" <thorinmunro@...> wrote:
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