Re: Re: Throwing the game.

Chris Babcock <[email protected]> Tue, 21 Dec 2010 08:47:31 -0700
Newsgroups gmane.games.diplomacy.judge.dp.discussion
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Of course the bells and whistles that would say if the two players are on
the same computer are not being tripped. They aren't even on the same
continent! One of the accused is logging in from a commercial ISP in a
European country and the other from a North American university. This
information is in the access file which the GM can access through the
website.

(I have access to the judge through the file system, which is why I don't
play there.)

Signoff
Chris
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On Dec 21, 2010 8:19 AM, "Been Chissled" <[email protected]> wrote:

I am not accusing Thorin of cheating.  I am saying the whistles and bells
that show someone is on the same computer are not being tripped.  I have
noticed that Italy and Austria in Owls 244 never send press around the same
time.  Further look at the moves of the Italian player, with infuses on 1910
retreat.  Follow that up with the, HHMM HHMMM, missed moves the next season
and Italy logging in 40 min after the moves go through.  I can understand
your Idea that you can't tell from moves alone if someone is cheating but
there is other suspicious activity.  I have over 20 games completed in the
owls league and played in 3 tourneys, I don't throw this accusation out
willy nilly. I am not , I repeat, Not accusing Thorin in anyway of cheating.
 I am stating I don't think this was looked into very much.  On this I could
be wrong.  Anyway can anyone explain to me why Italy would throw the game to
Austria when he is not in danger of being eliminated and it wasn't used as a
threat in a
 nyway????  I understand getting blown out and saying if you keep attacking
me I have no course but to throw my lot in with whomever?  This never
happened.  It reminds me of the line from Doctor Strange Love.  If you build
a dooms day device in order for it to work you have to tell the world.  Well
anyway this has massively turned me off to Diplomacy on line.


--- In [email protected], Jerrod Hansen <jhansen@...> wrote:
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> Nice sig. Me loves some Bruc...
> On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 10:21 AM, Chris Babcock <cbabcock@...>wrote:

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> > I don't know why some players remain convinced that their subjective
view
> > of the ...

> > On Dec 20, 2010 5:20 PM, "Been Chissled" <kirman36@...> wrote:
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> > I gues he doesn't hav...

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