Re: Worst kept secrets
"naboimp" <[email protected]> Thu, 23 Sep 2004 15:59:49 -0000
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> > Game 3 - Russia actually has a better shot of advancing by topping > > or sharing a board top than by trying to finish in 8th. In my > > opinion, it basically depends upon Germany. Together Germany and > > England can prevent Russia from taking any of their centers, and > > they can make it difficult in the Med area for Russia to take all of > > Austria's. Even if successful in taking all of Austria's centers, > > Russia would finish at 13, only one more than England has now, and > > Germany could surely give up two centers in the final year to insure > > an English top. On the other hand, if Germany chose to aid Russia > > instead, I think Russia tops outright. > > Ohhh, I don't think there is much chance Germany will aid Russia.....In > fact, I heard a rumor that the German player will give the England any > needed dot to maintain the top. > Are you sure your source knows what he's talking about? :) > > > > > > Game 5 - I don't know the dynamics on this board, but unless they > > are all conspiring to give Turkey a bunch of centers, I just don't > > see it. He's currently got 7 and can reasonably add the current > > Austrian centers (if he's got French help) to get to 11. Sevastopol > > is a possibility which would get him to 12, but I don't see getting > > beyond that unless France is donating his own centers to the cause > > (which perhaps he is if he thinks he can set up a shared top). Is > > 12 enough? I don't think so. :) > > > > The F-T is said to be exactly the deal. Although, again, if your estimation > of 11-12 not being enough, then thats a rather moot point and any meta game > deals will be looked back on as nothing more than the silly season. > Well, I could be wrong about the total, but I tend to doubt it. I have my own rumor-mongering sources too. > Although I do have a feeling that the ties you mention are going to be > looked at very very carefully by the players on those boards. Has anyone > done the math to determine whether, by taking the tie, the players could > create a happy time deal where both of them advanced?? I don't think a tie would get more than one person into the final automatically since it is the highest score (with tiebreakers) from each board that gets there first. At this point, I'd say the other player sharing in the top would almost certainly be the next highest score overall. A (2-player) shared top is worth 24 + the number of centers. A second place is worth 16 + the number of centers. To make up the difference, the second place player would need eight more centers than the shared top, and that would seem virtually impossible. (If fewer than five players remain in the shared top game, it is impossible, and thus very improbable under other circumstances.) From the looks of things, I'd say Game 1 is most likely of any to end up in a tie. Then again, without good access to a map, I haven't looked that closely at Game 4. Game 6 is already over with a second place at 9 centers, and Game 7 (with only a fall season to go) will likely end up similarly. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/xTHqlB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~->