Re: The endless influx of low-quality, low-realism, quantity-over-quality aircraft into FGAddon

David Hudach <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.games.flightgear.devel
Message-ID <CAJeoFaLoTsEdv5hJUNQ1goZTQ+B=euKUhGzG79NN+cnX-Mm8TQ@mail.gmail.com>
Willie,

Thank you, but honestly I'm just trying to suggest that sincere comments
are probably a reflection of sincere efforts.

Thank you again,
Dave

On Wed, May 27, 2026 at 7:04 AM Willie Fleming <[email protected]> wrote:

> Once again David you put it so much more eloquently than I can 😁
>
> Spot on, pal.
>
> Regards
> Willie Fleming
>
> On Wed, 27 May 2026, 11:31 David Hudach, <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Yes, nothing is stopping anyone from adding to documentation or anything
>> else. But as I stated previously, contributing takes many forms. And
>> "talking about stuff" seems to me rather dismissive. I'll go back to
>> "rolling up one's sleeves" is different for all of us. And I'm certainly in
>> agreement that if someone just opens a topic in the forum and says "hey do
>> this" without any serious thought, then FG should ask that person to
>> qualify what he's asking for, to provide some real justification, to talk
>> about what effort was put in that led to that "demand." There is nothing
>> wrong with that. I believe that is the point of the discussions here. The
>> FG project should be able to take critique and criticism from testing and
>> analysis on all levels and "talking about stuff" should result in some
>> kinds of resolutions or maybe even consensus or at least the notion that
>> it's a serious topic. I still maintain that the aim is to improve FG
>> overall. But I think the notion that posting is just aimed at "talking
>> about stuff" comes off as a rather defensive, thin skinned response to
>> serious topics.
>>
>> On Wed, May 27, 2026 at 6:07 AM James Turner <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 27 May 2026, at 10:54, Willie Fleming <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Its a volunteer project and Im not volunteering to put up with those
>>> attitudes to try make the place a little more welcomi g and user friendly.
>>> I wish you luck but you are dealing with too many hidebound grumpy old guys
>>> who are enjoying their own little circle jerk.
>>> Shame cos its a really good simulator crippled by crap documentation and
>>> crappier attitudes.
>>>
>>>
>>> Please do remember, everyone contributing is doing this for fun :
>>> possibly Type 2 fun, but still. It’s very easy to suggest things which are
>>> sensible, but which are in fact, /work/, not fun.
>>>
>>> Everyone has a different idea what fun and work look like, but
>>> complaining that someone else’s definition, is the reason you won’t
>>> contribute, seems like a self-defeating argument. The thing that counts is
>>> *doing stuff* (which largely means commits / fixes to code / aircraft /
>>> docs / the website. As opposed to ’talking about stuff’ here / on the
>>> forum. So if you want to complain how bad the docs are, I’ll take your
>>> comments a lot more seriously when you’ve made 20+ commits to:
>>>
>>> https://gitlab.com/flightgear/documentation
>>>
>>> Now, maybe that’s *not* fun for you, so it won’t happen, but that’s
>>> entirely under your control : no one else’s attitude is stopping you doing
>>> that :)
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>> James
>>>
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