Re: The endless influx of low-quality, low-realism, quantity-over-quality aircraft into FGAddon

Once again David you put it so much more eloquently than I can 😁

Spot on, pal.

Regards
Willie Fleming

On Wed, 27 May 2026, 11:31 David Hudach, <[email protected]> wrote:

> Yes, nothing is stopping anyone from adding to documentation or anything
> else. But as I stated previously, contributing takes many forms. And
> "talking about stuff" seems to me rather dismissive. I'll go back to
> "rolling up one's sleeves" is different for all of us. And I'm certainly in
> agreement that if someone just opens a topic in the forum and says "hey do
> this" without any serious thought, then FG should ask that person to
> qualify what he's asking for, to provide some real justification, to talk
> about what effort was put in that led to that "demand." There is nothing
> wrong with that. I believe that is the point of the discussions here. The
> FG project should be able to take critique and criticism from testing and
> analysis on all levels and "talking about stuff" should result in some
> kinds of resolutions or maybe even consensus or at least the notion that
> it's a serious topic. I still maintain that the aim is to improve FG
> overall. But I think the notion that posting is just aimed at "talking
> about stuff" comes off as a rather defensive, thin skinned response to
> serious topics.
>
> On Wed, May 27, 2026 at 6:07 AM James Turner <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On 27 May 2026, at 10:54, Willie Fleming <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Its a volunteer project and Im not volunteering to put up with those
>> attitudes to try make the place a little more welcomi g and user friendly.
>> I wish you luck but you are dealing with too many hidebound grumpy old guys
>> who are enjoying their own little circle jerk.
>> Shame cos its a really good simulator crippled by crap documentation and
>> crappier attitudes.
>>
>>
>> Please do remember, everyone contributing is doing this for fun :
>> possibly Type 2 fun, but still. It’s very easy to suggest things which are
>> sensible, but which are in fact, /work/, not fun.
>>
>> Everyone has a different idea what fun and work look like, but
>> complaining that someone else’s definition, is the reason you won’t
>> contribute, seems like a self-defeating argument. The thing that counts is
>> *doing stuff* (which largely means commits / fixes to code / aircraft /
>> docs / the website. As opposed to ’talking about stuff’ here / on the
>> forum. So if you want to complain how bad the docs are, I’ll take your
>> comments a lot more seriously when you’ve made 20+ commits to:
>>
>> https://gitlab.com/flightgear/documentation
>>
>> Now, maybe that’s *not* fun for you, so it won’t happen, but that’s
>> entirely under your control : no one else’s attitude is stopping you doing
>> that :)
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> James
>>
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