Re: torque and force computation

"BONNEVILLE David" <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.games.flightgear.flightmodel
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Merci pour les infos, et pour l'effort de francais ;) mais je crois que je vais
continuer en anglais au cas ou cette discussion soit utile plus tard a
quelqu'un
d'autre.

F = Cs * rho * v^2 / 2 * (p - p0)  +  Cd * dp/dt

Cs and Cd are two constants to determine with 'trial and error' method.
rho : air density
v : relative wind speed
p : position of the command (aileron, rudder or elevator)
p0 : trim position (what do you call trim position exactly ? cause i'm a
beginner in the plane-world)
dp/dt : velocity of the command

Can you explain me the results i should get if Cs and/or Cd are too big or too
small ?
F is the moment on the command (aileron, rudder or elevator). I should apply it
back to the yoke and rudder pedals trough a gain/attenuator (which should be a
parameter in a config file). Do you agree ?

For information, i have a similar discussion on the jsbsim-devel list.

Thanks / Merci beaucoup.

David


--- Message d'origine ---
> De : Gerhard Wesp <[email protected]>
> À : BONNEVILLE David <[email protected]>
> Sujet : Re: Re : Re: [Flightgear-flightmodel] torque and force computation
> Date : mer 05 jan 2005 13:51:39 CET
> 
> > Thanks for your answer and happy new year ;-)
> 
> De meme!
> 
> Je me permets d'exercer mon francais :)
> 
> > elevator. Is it between 0 and 1 or is it an angle value in degree or radian
> ?
> 
> Tu peux chosir l'unite librement.  La formule reste la meme.
> 
> > depend on the speed ? the wing chord ?
> 
> Oui, ca depend de la vitesse.  La pression dynamique egale 
> 
>   rho v^2/2,
> 
> ou rho signifie la densite de l'air (c'est 1.225 kg/m^3 a zero metres
> d'altitude, plus l'altitude moins la densite.)
> 
> > Cs has to be a constant to ensure the system stability. Do you have any
> idea
> > about its range ?
> 
> Il y a bien de formules pour calculer l'attenuation necessair pour qu'un
> systememe n'oscille pas, mais je crois que la la methode ``d'essai et
> erreur'' (trial and error) est mieux adapte.
> 
> N'hesite pas a me contacter si tu as d'autres questions!
> 
> Salut,
> -Gerhard
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