[freeciv-data] Re: Re: Fixes and additions for nation files

"Eric S. Raymond" <[email protected]> Thu, 12 Dec 2002 15:29:15 -0500
Newsgroups gmane.games.freeciv.data
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Paul Zastoupil <[email protected]>:
> > That's OK, I'll pick nits right back at you.  The Gondorians don't
> > describe themselves as Dunedain in the books. :-)
> 
> Wheee :)
> 
> But Aragorn was called Dunedain, "Man of the west".  Since the blood
> of the Gondorians (and any reminent Arnorians) was from Numenor, in
> the west... Its not a far leap.  If we could agree they were Edain,
> then they were also Dunedain.

Bzzzt!  Logic failure.  Aragorn wasn't Gondorian, he was from the royal 
line of Arnor!

(I'm one of *those* Tolkien fans,  Taught myself to write Feanorian and
actually recognized some spoken Elvish in the LOT movie -- when I wasn't
being too distracted by Liv Tyler's lips, that is.)


> >   "Barad-Dûr", "Durthang", "Orodruin", "Morannon", "Dol Guldur",
> >   "Minas Morgul", "Cirith Ungol", "Moria", "Angmar", "Gorgoroth",
> >   "Morgai", "Nurn", "Khand", "Rhûn", "Harad", "Dagorlad", "Ephel Dúath",
> >   "Ered Lithui", "Emyn Muil", "Núrnen", "Poros", "Harnen", "Lugbúrz",
> >   "Angband", "Carn Dûm", "Utumno", "Amon Amarth", "Uruk-hai", "Olog-hai",
> >   "Azog", "Bolg", "Gorbag", "Shagrat", "Grishnákh", "Glamhoth"
> 
> Yes, this is a problem.  Have you actually played a game of Freeciv
> with an experienced player?  This list is still MUCH too short.  So you
> can see the dilemma.  Its more of a "theme" as you have pointed out.
> Feeling evil yet? :)

Bwahahaha!  Yes...

Thangorodrim:    The mountains that Morgoth raised above Angband
Orthanc:         Well, it was evil in the books
Angrenost:       The Elvish name for Orthanc
Mount Fang:      Another use-name of Orthanc
Cirith Gorgor:   The Haunted Pass, where the Ered Lithui & Ephel Dúath meet
Moontower:       A poetic name of Minas Morgul
Hells of Iron:   Another name for Angband
Udûn:            The northern valley of Mordor that lay behind the Morannon
Havens of Umbar: Ruled by Sauron's allies
Phurunargian:    Westron name of Moria
Khand:           Traditional ally of Mordor lying to the east.
Rhûn:            General term for the lands to the East
Sammath Naur:    The Cracks of Doom...part of Orodruin, properly speaking.

There you go.  Thirteen actual placenames.  Now lose those flippin' orcs! :-)

You should probably change Nu'rnen to Nurn.  Unless you *want* to name a
city after a big lake :-)

> (I don't know if you're on the list, so I'm replying and CC'ing the
> list.)

Not on it yet.
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