Re: APEX documents on hold

--On 2002-07-16 08.46 +0900 Patrik F=E4ltstr=F6m <[email protected]> wrote:

> The IESG has decided to keep the apex documents on hold until a mapping
> document from APEX to CPIM exists, so all documents can be published
> together.
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>     Patrik F=E4ltstr=F6m
>     co-Area Director, Applications Area

The IESG (no surprise I guess) once again discuss the APEX documents this
morning. I was (of course) told the statement above is not coherent with
what the decision was yesterday, and I personally apologise.

Let me first point out that the fact that it was detected that references
"towards" the CPIM documents (direct, or indirectly via the 5th last APEX
document which is to specify the mapping between APEX and CPIM) is
completely unrelated to the discussion about (a) XML transport protocols =
in
the IETF (b) whether jabber makes sense as an IMPP protocol (c) whether
jabber should become a wg.

What IESG is talking about regarding the APEX documents is _only_ the lac=
k
of references towards CPIM.

Now, what IESG decided yesterday (which i worded badly) was that we
requested the documents to be on hold while discussing because it was
detected that references were missing. Not "until those references were
added".

Today, after discussing with the APEX chair and Graham (author of relevan=
t
document(s)), IESG decided:

 - To request at the RFC-Editor that the 3 APEX base specifications:
     draft-ietf-apex-core-06.txt
     draft-ietf-apex-access-08.txt
     draft-ietf-apex-party-04.txt

 - To keep the hold on the IM part of APEX and continue to discuss
   with authors, wg chairs etc on how to do the referencing
     draft-ietf-apex-presence-06.txt

Note once again:

  (a) This is unrelated with XML/Jabber/whatever issues
  (b) The hold requested is just because we think we all need
      to think some more on an issue which was not rised during
      last call or during IESG discussions, "we" as in IETF, not
      just IESG

        Patrik F=E4ltstr=F6m
        co-Area Director, Applications Area