Re: web interface, was WTF???

On 19 Mar 2013, at 17:04, Dave Crocker <[email protected]>
 wrote:

> 
> On 3/19/2013 9:51 AM, John Levine wrote:
>>> It didn't occur to me that you were providing email-only guidance
>>> because the site apparently doesn't have an interactive interface via
>>> the web.
>> 
>> You could ask.
>> 
>> http://lists.services.net/cgi-bin/mj_wwwusr/domain=lists.gurus.org
> 
> 
> 1.  That warrants another WTF.  Ask what of whom?  Why should such a step be necessary? How are we supposed to have known? How is this level of complexity reasonable in this day?

From the List-help header. But the web interface isn't mentioned there. And even if it was, most people don't use mail clients that expose that header by default. There's an extension for Thunderbird, but it has less than 1000 users. And even when they can see such headers, links aren't usually made clickable. That's why most mailing lists add a footer, and hence why they usually break DKIM and S-MIME signatures.

> 2. Bitdefender is blocking access to that URL, saying it's unsafe.  I don't much care what the explanations are or whether Bitdefender is right or wrong.  It's a mainstream product.
> 
> d/
> 
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> Dave Crocker
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